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Feb 18, 2019 12:47 as a reply to  @ post 18813474 |  #3016

The answer of my post (#3018) pics 1-4 are on my next post (#3019) in the same order.

1- shot with the R
2- shot with the 5d3
3- shot with the 5d2
4- shot with the 550d

As I mentioned, the only difference with all cameras was getting the camera to focus in low light. (Hallway light)

4- worst
3- meh
2- way better
1- excellent

now I understand all my cameras and I know their limitations some are better suited for certain jobs I do. I also understand where I can get the best performance out of them. In the end is there a difference? Yes absolutely, its getting easier and easier to get the shot in focus going by this test.

But if you really ask me, I'm the one who thinks all my cameras are beasts lol..


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Feb 18, 2019 14:47 |  #3017

Just ordered a RF 35 --- ;) Get here Friday




  
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Feb 18, 2019 15:47 |  #3018

vargasjv wrote in post #18813770 (external link)
Just ordered a RF 35 --- ;) Get here Friday

Cant wait for your results!


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Feb 18, 2019 17:18 |  #3019

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mdvaden wrote in post #18813344 (external link)
"The Rosetta Stone"

This guy's video was fun to listen too. i like the Rosetta Stone analogy he used to describe the Canon EOS R menu.


The pin cushioning on his video was driving me crazy. What lens was he using?


Edit: A GoPro. I should have watched to the end...


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Feb 18, 2019 17:38 |  #3020

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Help me out here, am I the professional or is the camera the professional? I mean I get it, the “pro” bodies from Canon and Nikon have two slots, but I shot weddings, and got paid for them, with the Canon 6D, which is obviously not a “pro” camera with only one slot. I know younger guys and gals shooting on 60, 70 or 80Ds, getting paid for their stuff, and KILLING it when it comes to their work. Those are by far NOT professional bodies.

The R is another tool on my belt, and while not a full time photographer (my paycheck comes from government work), when I get hired, I get paid for my professional work, my professional attitude and my professional results. I’ve seen plenty of people that own high end cameras that have not a clue on how to use it, let alone compose a shot. So I ask again, am I the professional or is the camera the professional?

Here’s some “non-pro” photos that I got with my “non-pro” camera from Friday’s wedding.
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Love the colors of that first shot.. Very nice image


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Feb 18, 2019 17:39 |  #3021

I took my 35mm to the Red Wings game yesterday since Little Caesar's Arena allows lenses up to 80mm.

Look at Gordie Howe's active years. He started playing professionally from 1946 and was still playing in 1980.

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Feb 18, 2019 17:39 |  #3022

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You know it's pretty much unknown for Adorama not to price match B&H?

How about beat the price maybe?


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Feb 18, 2019 18:50 |  #3023

DigitalTuned wrote in post #18813909 (external link)
Love the colors of that first shot.. Very nice image

Thanks! It's the curved walkway from the courthouse to the parking garage of our county's superior court building (where I work full time) and I've always wanted to photograph someone against it.


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Feb 18, 2019 20:11 |  #3024

mhickman wrote in post #18813615 (external link)
Thanks. I'm just tired of the "pro" discussion when it comes to bodies. I've seen better composed and post-processed photos from smart phones than some of those with 5D Mk IVs. If the gear makes one a pro, then "If you're nothing without this suit, then you shouldn't have it."-Tony Stark

I'm not sure if the line is as well defined in camera gear, but I consider "pro" gear to be equipment someone designs and markets more heavily to professionals, or amateurs who produce work that is of professional quality.

For example, I own a $70 hand pruning saw called the Silky Zubat. I've never met an amateur who owns one (there must be somebody). But it would be a "pro" saw that likely never appears in any Home Depot, Ace Hardware or garden center. Likewise, Stihl makes pro chainsaws. One tiny one with a center handle for one-handed use, is close to $600 whereas a basic model is around $250. The biggest and baddest chainsaws are used by private woodland owners too, but the work they are doing is very comparable to what professional arborists or loggers are doing.

But in photography, I'm not sure if the line of separation is so well defined. Non professionals do own 1DX mk ii bodies, but I think Canon's mindset was "professionals" when they went to the drawing board. In the middle range, it seems more important to just keep track of what each camera can or can't do, and then apart from that, what each person will do, or will offer.


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Feb 18, 2019 21:22 |  #3025

Pondrader wrote in post #18813621 (external link)
I'm in agreement on the ( Pro )…. thing. Its a term used for a long time in photography.

Sometimes used to make people feel better about tham selves.. And I might add, makes me laugh out loud sometimes.

The implication of better or more in authority ( pro ) has been removed from other forms of thought on this line of thinking in other realms

The times they are a changing.. I know amateurs ( aka non pro ) shooters that are far better at their craft.

Maybe its a term from days gone by that doesn't fit the true story as much as it use to.

It's taken me 20 minutes to come up with an answer and then it all goes out the window.

I was going to say everything you wrote is true and that the last statement sums it up nicely and that still holds true but I think we've come full circle or are about to. 50-60 years ago cameras were common but mostly only 'pros' had the good gear aka 35mm or medium format or larger. Today there are millions of pictures taken with phones every day but how many ILC cameras do you see. Regardless of skill level the people dragging around pounds and pounds of gear are the ones getting quality shots just like it was years ago. The phone picture today is analogous to the box camera of old - better than no picture at all. Despite my lack of skill I hope I can do better than a phone.

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Feb 18, 2019 21:44 |  #3026

Wait until they come up with "master level" bodies... :rolleyes:


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Feb 18, 2019 22:07 |  #3027

Here ya go

a lot of you guys idolize this guy. I for one do not. But on the topic of who is a professional photographer and who is not...... Ken Rockwell is 100% right. So I copy pasted from his site for you to read.......Just because you have good gear and make a few bucks from a relatives wedding doesn't mean you are a pro. It means your a weekend warrior out making a few extra bucks with your fancy camera.....Plain and simple...Dont let your egos override reality 101. Professionals make the majority, if not all of their income, by pushing the shutter button year end and year out. This is not a hobby or side job for them.

Full-Time Career Pro

A Full-Time Career Professional Photographer is a person who has been a full-time photographer for his entire career.

He works all day, every day, ever since he graduated college.

These guys buy whatever gear they need, since the cost of gear is trivial compared to how much they use it. If something saves them 5 minutes a day or has a clearer viewfinder to peer through 12 hours a day, it doesn't matter if it costs $8,000. For these guys, even very little things, like AF sensors that don't clutter the viewfinder, are very important.

Full-Time Photographer

A full-time pro works the same as the Full-Time Career Professional Photographer, but failed at some other career and fell back on his hobby to try to make money.

If he hasn't been doing it very long, he may still worry about gear costs since he's not sure how long it will be until he'll get another real job. These worries come from back when he had a real job, and his boss tried to get cheap with the tools. The Career Pro doesn't worry: if a new tool saves him more time over its life than the cost of ownership, it's a no-brainer to buy it.

Professional Photographer

A professional photographer is a photographer who earns 100% of his income from photography. This is the definition required for entrance into the secret Nikon and Canon factory support organizations.

Amateur Photographer

People who earn less than 50% of their income from photography are amateurs.


People who shoot weddings every single weekend while holding down another job aren't professional photographers. People who sell prints at art fairs, but still have real jobs, are still amateurs.

Different people and organizations will argue over what income percentage defines professional. I won't get into that here, but these numbers vary wildly.

These weekend amateurs are all about the cash, and will shoot great pictures, but use the cheapest gear they can. That's OK, and the way to run a part-time business. Rich amateurs will buy any gear they want.

Your homeowners' insurance company probably will define you as a commercial enterprise even if you've sold just one photo, ever. Ask before you make that first print for a friend; you may invalidate all your equipment coverage!

For decades I avoided selling even one print. The jump in my insurance rates would have made the sale of a few prints pointless.


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Feb 18, 2019 22:30 |  #3028

Used the R today for some softball team portraits.

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Feb 18, 2019 22:36 |  #3029



OH MAN

that 300 looks great. Nice job. Wowzers. Now thats a statement for mirrorless. slap on a 300 and print it. I am impressed- I dont need no stinking calibration targets :pbw!


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Feb 18, 2019 23:49 |  #3030

mhickman wrote in post #18813541 (external link)
Help me out here, am I the professional or is the camera the professional? I mean I get it, the “pro” bodies from Canon and Nikon have two slots, but I shot weddings, and got paid for them, with the Canon 6D, which is obviously not a “pro” camera with only one slot. I know younger guys and gals shooting on 60, 70 or 80Ds, getting paid for their stuff, and KILLING it when it comes to their work. Those are by far NOT professional bodies.

The R is another tool on my belt, and while not a full time photographer (my paycheck comes from government work), when I get hired, I get paid for my professional work, my professional attitude and my professional results. I’ve seen plenty of people that own high end cameras that have not a clue on how to use it, let alone compose a shot. So I ask again, am I the professional or is the camera the professional?

Here’s some “non-pro” photos that I got with my “non-pro” camera from Friday’s wedding.
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I used to do weddings, I used to shoot a whole wedding with a canon 40D. The images still hold up today. The last time i did a wedding I used a 5DIII a 5DII and my second shooter used a 70D and handed me the raw files which I edited to look as close to the full frame images as possible. I have to look at the data sometimes to work out which camera was used, its all in the editing and of course using a half decent lens helps


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