Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Visual Enjoyment Transportation 
Thread started 25 Nov 2008 (Tuesday) 00:11
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Post your Freighter or big boat thread

 
Ray.Petri
Goldmember
Avatar
1,782 posts
Gallery: 242 photos
Likes: 1468
Joined Mar 2005
Location: North Kent UK
     
Mar 14, 2019 06:45 |  #1576

Red Dexs wrote in post #18828536 (external link)
When containers do fall off they either sink or they float similar to an iceberg, most of their mass below the surface, these are the dangerous ones. Many ocean going yachts have hit these and either have sunk or been badly damaged. During my many years working at sea I've seen an awful lot of these metal 'icebergs'. Trying to recover a lost container is almost impossible due to the fact many container ships do not have the cranes and 'if' they did have cranes the risk of getting damaged is far too much.

Thanks for your comment Red, I was thinking that would be the case. But could it ‘hole’ a container ship and cause it to sink?
What about a tanker, or small warship?


Ray-P

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Capn ­ Jack
Goldmember
Avatar
2,368 posts
Gallery: 1040 photos
Likes: 5416
Joined Mar 2010
Location: NE USA
     
Mar 14, 2019 16:37 |  #1577

Straight of Messina, double-ended ferry


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
chadmcm
Senior Member
308 posts
Likes: 27
Joined May 2008
Location: Vancouver, Washington
     
Mar 14, 2019 23:37 as a reply to  @ post 18828594 |  #1578

It was several years ago, but as I recall you had to access through the base there - a bus ride and formal tour that I just didn't have time for that trip. I could be wrong, though.


Chad McMurry
Vancouver, WA USA

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
shocolite
Member
Avatar
211 posts
Gallery: 54 photos
Likes: 160
Joined Mar 2014
Location: Ireland (when I do get home!)
     
Mar 15, 2019 00:47 |  #1579

Ray.Petri wrote in post #18828519 (external link)
Hi Shocolite. We frequently hear about large containers being washed up or floating around the oceans - but have you - or anyone else - any experience of a cargo ship hitting one and the damage caused? Would you try to recover them or just leave them?

Regards.

Hi Ray, no any vessel I have been on has not hit a container (that we were aware of). But a colleague of mine hit a container whilst sailing across from Britain to a European port - he ended up having to radio for assistance as the sailboat was taking on to much water. Both he and the boat did make it to port but a lot of damage was caused to his boat.

We'd never try to recover them but would send a message to relevant authorities about any containers sighted at sea.


Canon 80D, 700D & G7 X; EF-S 10-18/18-135 STM, EF-S 18-135 IS USM, 50 F1.4, 100 F2.8L Macro, 16-35 F4L, 70-200 F4L IS; 100-400 L II, Speedlite 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
shocolite
Member
Avatar
211 posts
Gallery: 54 photos
Likes: 160
Joined Mar 2014
Location: Ireland (when I do get home!)
     
Mar 15, 2019 01:02 |  #1580

Ray.Petri wrote in post #18828607 (external link)
Thanks for your comment Red, I was thinking that would be the case. But could it ‘hole’ a container ship and cause it to sink?
What about a tanker, or small warship?

Hi Ray, overall I don't think (and am not aware of) containers causing such damage to larger ships. Been a long time since I was on container vessels but the steel on containers is only 3mm thick (if I remember rightly. Only the 4 corner posts are structural/load bearing and of heavier gauge. An empty container is only about 3t weight.

So most larger ships would probably suffer paint scuffing at worst - the hull plating of the ships I was on was about 10mm thick, coupled with the structural framing so fairly strong. But smaller warships (such as those involved with mine clearance) can be of glass fibre construction and I would strongly suspect that a container could likely cause serious damage to such vessels.

The biggest risk is to sailing/power recreational vessels. Whilst never proved to be the cause, a partially submerged container was believed to be the cause of the flooding and sinking of the Irish tall ship sail training vessel "Asgard II" about 10 years ago in the Bay of Biscay, thankfully with no loss of life. Asgard II was a timber hulled vessel.


Canon 80D, 700D & G7 X; EF-S 10-18/18-135 STM, EF-S 18-135 IS USM, 50 F1.4, 100 F2.8L Macro, 16-35 F4L, 70-200 F4L IS; 100-400 L II, Speedlite 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ray.Petri
Goldmember
Avatar
1,782 posts
Gallery: 242 photos
Likes: 1468
Joined Mar 2005
Location: North Kent UK
     
Mar 15, 2019 02:05 |  #1581

shocolite wrote in post #18828999 (external link)
Hi Ray, overall I don't think (and am not aware of) containers causing such damage to larger ships. Been a long time since I was on container vessels but the steel on containers is only 3mm thick (if I remember rightly. Only the 4 corner posts are structural/load bearing and of heavier gauge. An empty container is only about 3t weight.

So most larger ships would probably suffer paint scuffing at worst - the hull plating of the ships I was on was about 10mm thick, coupled with the structural framing so fairly strong. But smaller warships (such as those involved with mine clearance) can be of glass fibre construction and I would strongly suspect that a container could likely cause serious damage to such vessels.

The biggest risk is to sailing/power recreational vessels. Whilst never proved to be the cause, a partially submerged container was believed to be the cause of the flooding and sinking of the Irish tall ship sail training vessel "Asgard II" about 10 years ago in the Bay of Biscay, thankfully with no loss of life. Asgard II was a timber hulled vessel.

Thanks for your detailed replies and the interesting information.
But a 3 ton container, colliding with a 10mm thick hull at 30 knots would have worried me a bit!:-(


Ray-P

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Red ­ Dexs
Goldmember
Avatar
2,738 posts
Gallery: 22 photos
Likes: 629
Joined Jun 2014
Location: Crete Greece.
Post edited 11 days ago by Red Dexs.
     
Mar 15, 2019 02:39 |  #1582

Ray.Petri wrote in post #18828607 (external link)
Thanks for your comment Red, I was thinking that would be the case. But could it ‘hole’ a container ship and cause it to sink?
What about a tanker, or small warship?

They are lethal to a small vessel Ray, they could though 'potentially' punch a hole in any ship, especially if its old and the plates are thin. Ships are made of many separate compartments and with a competent crew can be sealed off with no danger to the ship. Tankers of certain capacities by law have to be doubled skinned to prevent incidents like this, also grounding etc.


I like what I like.
Gear-Canon 1DX2, Canon Eos 7D2, Canon EF 300mm f2.8L IS II USM, EF 100-400 f4.5-5.6L IS II USM, EF100mm f/2.8L IS USM, EF 16-35mm f4L IS USM, Canon EF 70-200 f/4 IS USM. Canon extenders 1.4x & 2x MKIII.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ray.Petri
Goldmember
Avatar
1,782 posts
Gallery: 242 photos
Likes: 1468
Joined Mar 2005
Location: North Kent UK
     
Mar 15, 2019 02:56 |  #1583

Red Dexs wrote in post #18829016 (external link)
They are lethal to a small vessel Ray, they could though 'potentially' punch a hole in any ship, especially if its old and the plates are thin. Ships are made of many separate compartments and with a competent crew can be sealed off with no danger to the ship. Tankers of certain capacities by law have to be doubled skinned to prevent incidents like this, also grounding etc.

Thanks for your reply, Red.


Ray-P

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Capn ­ Jack
Goldmember
Avatar
2,368 posts
Gallery: 1040 photos
Likes: 5416
Joined Mar 2010
Location: NE USA
     
Mar 15, 2019 17:19 |  #1584

A two-fer here, Straight of Messina


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kjnorth
Member
Avatar
65 posts
Gallery: 38 photos
Likes: 301
Joined Feb 2017
Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada
     
Mar 15, 2019 18:19 |  #1585

Cruise Ships Docked


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pcs
I suddenly feel very old
Avatar
1,279 posts
Gallery: 994 photos
Likes: 11592
Joined Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
     
Mar 18, 2019 05:42 |  #1586


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
pcs
I suddenly feel very old
Avatar
1,279 posts
Gallery: 994 photos
Likes: 11592
Joined Apr 2010
Location: The Netherlands
     
Mar 19, 2019 05:53 |  #1587


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ray.Petri
Goldmember
Avatar
1,782 posts
Gallery: 242 photos
Likes: 1468
Joined Mar 2005
Location: North Kent UK
Post edited 6 days ago by Ray.Petri.
     
Mar 20, 2019 01:15 |  #1588

With 1.4 III Extender.
Coral Lophelia 2 miles off North Foreland on the East coast of Kent.
The fog/mist level was high and the wind turbines were just about visible.
The camera seems to see objects on the horizon, often invisible to the/my eyes.
However; PS CS6 saved the image.


HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.


Ray-P

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ptcanon3ti
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,143 posts
Gallery: 394 photos
Best ofs: 5
Likes: 5335
Joined Sep 2012
Location: NJ
     
Mar 21, 2019 19:56 |  #1589

Iowa Class Battleship: USS New Jersey BB-62

HOSTED PHOTO
please log in to view hosted photos in full size.
Photo from ptcanon3ti's gallery.


Paul
https://www.flickr.com​/photos/petshots/ (external link)
Body - Nikon D750
Lenses - Nikon 20 f1.8 / Nikon 16-35 f4 / Sigma 105 OS Macro / Sigma 24-105 f4 Art / Tamron 70-200 2.8 Di VC / Sigma 150-600 "S"

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Capn ­ Jack
Goldmember
Avatar
2,368 posts
Gallery: 1040 photos
Likes: 5416
Joined Mar 2010
Location: NE USA
     
Mar 22, 2019 08:16 |  #1590

ptcanon3ti wrote in post #18832755 (external link)
Iowa Class Battleship: USS New Jersey BB-62

Where’s Camden? Looks good, but lots of work to remove the background.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

355,799 views & 1,486 likes for this thread
Post your Freighter or big boat thread
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Visual Enjoyment Transportation 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Eastfrisian
955 guests, 341 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.