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Mar 14, 2019 07:10 |  #46

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It's such a relief to be back at 840mm, I wasn't doing so hot with the 100-400 II + 1.4x @ 560mm and f/8 in the winter light for small birds.

I ordered the new Wimberely foot AP-600 to try out, which gives a little space for your hand, versus the AP-602 which gives zero space. My hand gets a little fatigued, so here's hoping that aids me there. Also, definitely ordering the shortie hood :) I see that you have the short hoods too, do you feel that the weight loss and shorter length is a noticeable difference?

After a few days of using the 600 III:

- the 600 III feels exactly like a 500 II when it comes to hand holding. So much more tolerable than the 600 II was; that being said though, the 600 III is still a heavy lens.
- IQ of the III is exactly like the II, so it feels like I picked up right where I left off.

Somewhat related, but I've been testing out the EOS R with the 600 III, and for small birds it just isn't up to par. The camera takes a decade to wake up, the AF is too sluggish, and you don't get the small Spot-AF point for AI-Servo focus. It's do-able, but not ideal at all, and perhaps I just need more time with it. Regardless, the R is great for shooting everything else, so I'm not upset.

Sounds like you're happy :), as far as the short hood, it is wonderful. I like the shorter length, it shaves weight but not enough just to do it for that. The shorter length wins with vehicles, wind etc. I personally will not go back to the standard hood.


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Mar 16, 2019 12:54 |  #47

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Sounds like you're happy :), as far as the short hood, it is wonderful. I like the shorter length, it shaves weight but not enough just to do it for that. The shorter length wins with vehicles, wind etc. I personally will not go back to the standard hood.

Just received my shortie hood. I'm all for anything that reduces cumbersome bulk and weight. I also am loving the recently-released Wimberely AP-600 replacement foot. It's just short enough to still retain great comfort for hand holding (the Wimberelys have a nice flat + smooth profile that feels nice in the hand), but also tall enough to be used as a carry handle, all while providing maneuverability when moving the lens around. Good purchase!

Also, been reading about complaints w/ the lens performance w/ the 2xIII TC. I'm scratching my head on that, because mine seems to be working just fine. Shot this RWBB hand held, in some pretty low light (ISO 16,000). Post-processing has been done, so it's not SOOC, but still... I feel that the performance is exactly the same as the 600 II.


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Mar 16, 2019 15:48 as a reply to  @ post 18805236 |  #48

Markus Varesvuo is a very famous Finnish wildlife photographer , not Hungarian.


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Mar 16, 2019 17:54 |  #49

MatthewK wrote in post #18829778 (external link)
Just received my shortie hood. I'm all for anything that reduces cumbersome bulk and weight. I also am loving the recently-released Wimberely AP-600 replacement foot. It's just short enough to still retain great comfort for hand holding (the Wimberelys have a nice flat + smooth profile that feels nice in the hand), but also tall enough to be used as a carry handle, all while providing maneuverability when moving the lens around. Good purchase!

Also, been reading about complaints w/ the lens performance w/ the 2xIII TC. I'm scratching my head on that, because mine seems to be working just fine. Shot this RWBB hand held, in some pretty low light (ISO 16,000). Post-processing has been done, so it's not SOOC, but still... I feel that the performance is exactly the same as the 600 II.

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Glad you like the short hood. I will take a look at the foot, I use the really low one, so no handle at all. I agree the 2x works well when needed. Here are a few today with the 2x and handheld

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Mar 17, 2019 09:39 |  #50

Rare (for me) morning photography walk. My goal was to find an Eastern Phoebe that I saw yesterday; I've come to mark the beginning of Spring birding when I see my first Phoebe, so even though I couldn't find him this morning, it's still a good sign :)

Come to find out: when it comes to activity, the mornings totally blow the sunset sessions out of the water :( SO much easier.


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Mar 17, 2019 17:33 |  #51

Afternoon session:


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Mar 17, 2019 19:37 |  #52

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Nice bluebird


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Mar 18, 2019 11:05 |  #53

May I ask, what’s the cost of the short hood please..? Would It fit the 600 ii .?


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Mar 18, 2019 11:09 as a reply to  @ cheffievrs's post |  #54

$569 at B&H: https://www.bhphotovid​eo.com …s=hist-ma&Top+Nav-Search= (external link)

I'm not 100% sure if it'll fit the II.




  
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Mar 18, 2019 13:42 as a reply to  @ MatthewK's post |  #55

Thanks Matthew, I’m going to the photography show tomorrow so I’ll ask one of the Canon people.


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Mar 24, 2019 10:40 |  #56

Eastern Phoebe, and a Red-winged Blackbird:


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Mar 25, 2019 05:39 as a reply to  @ MatthewK's post |  #57

I love the smoothness of the out of focus background.


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Mar 27, 2019 03:30 |  #58

1200mm using the 80D and the 1DX2:


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Mar 27, 2019 05:54 |  #59

Nothing scientific but I had a cooperative bird stay in one spot while I switched lenses. So I did quick comparison with this Goldfinch between the 400mm with the 2x and 600mm with the 1.4x handheld in the 800mm range. The 600mm wins but not by much. I have both pictures posted alone so you can view them larger (Flickr will have the best detail)

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Larger view with the 600mm + 1.4x

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Larger view with the 400mm + 2x

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Mar 27, 2019 20:05 |  #60

I'd gladly take either of those results, Rob. That 400 III and 2xIII are insane together :eek:




  
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