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Apr 22, 2019 13:44 |  #16

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. . . 320x200 pixel BMP 256 colour image of a tree frog . . .
It probably took over a minute, drawing line by line to display the complete image.

Oh yes! That was amazing. If (in the faint chance) memory serves it was this one. I may have molested it some over the years.


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Apr 22, 2019 13:55 |  #17

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. . . full color graphics with Macintosh stuff that made other computers of the day look like a hammer and chisel it seemed to me. It was the beginning of the whole digital image world IMO . . .

That sure is true. Even with Apple out there showing the way it took years for other systems to catch up. Even now many graphics people are loyal to their greatly loved Macs.


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Apr 22, 2019 15:54 |  #18

I remember back in the early 90s hearing about bulletin boards (the electronic type). A guy at work told me he communicates with others
by using a bulletin board. Was that a precursor to the web?


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Apr 22, 2019 16:20 |  #19

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I remember back in the early 90s hearing about bulletin boards (the electronic type). A guy at work told me he communicates with others
by using a bulletin board. Was that a precursor to the web?

I shouldn't even try to answer in the presence of all these tech sophisticates, but I believe that if it was public, it was part of the Web, and that POTN is one of many bulletin boards–they just aren't usually called that now. The codes for bold, italic, and underline, the letters in brackets, are examples of bbcode, whose name means bulletin-board code.


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Apr 22, 2019 16:23 |  #20

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Apr 22, 2019 19:34 |  #21

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #18849895 (external link)
I remember back in the early 90s hearing about bulletin boards (the electronic type). A guy at work told me he communicates with others
by using a bulletin board. Was that a precursor to the web?

They certainly existed before the web but were more an early use of the internet. Most BB's died but some adapted to the brave new world of the HTTP web. There must be a few non-web BB's still around but I don't know of any.


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AZGeorge wrote in post #18849812 (external link)
Think you meant to say "wasn't the web" rather than "wasn't the internet."

Not really. It wasn't the internet we know. They had their own networks. They were online networks and they later had internet access but at first they were closed systems.

FWIW Compuserve introduced the .gif format image to the online world in 1987. At that time they were not connected to the internet. They started internet access in 1989 in a limited way.




  
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I remember back in the early 90s hearing about bulletin boards (the electronic type). A guy at work told me he communicates with others
by using a bulletin board. Was that a precursor to the web?

BBN's were often connected through what was called FidoNet. It was a satellite based net connection that was echoed around the world. I had many conversations with people in India and other parts of the east. It was pretty impressive at the time to dial up my local bulletin board (Kitty City was my favorite) and post Usenet messages (actually called Echomail at the time but it was nearly identical to Usenet) that were sometimes even answered a few weeks later. Network connections were pretty spotty and depended on when the host of the BBN, known as a sysop, wanted to make the connection to the network.

BBN's were part of the internet later mostly as Telnet sites. Eventually most died out but some became web portals. They were hard to tell from any other web site by that point. None of my local boards survived. I would guess some are still around. FidoNet became a part of the NNTP world and may still be around. It was the last time I checked but that was years ago.

Update: I checked and FidoNet is still around as BBN's that are connected via Telnet. It has actually made something of a comeback as specialty type sites that are connected via Telnet.. The Echomail groups that became part of Usenet may still be active also.




  
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Apr 22, 2019 22:13 |  #24

Whenever I hear the sound of the old dial-up modems, I am instantly transported back almost thirty years, to a Sunday evening at home. I would typically be trying to upload my report to a UK motorsport magazine, from a race meeting that weekend. Photos were already at the office being processed, having been sent, still in the can, via courier.

It always required several attempts to get the darn thing uploaded and an electronic receipt sent back. If I recall, a report would take around 20mins to upload, but of course, it would often crash when 95% uploaded ...

I would then await publication, and an opportunity to spot spellnig mistakes and typos that were mysteriously invisible the five times I checked it before sending it in :lol:


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Apr 22, 2019 23:00 |  #25

AZGeorge wrote in post #18849831 (external link)
That sure is true. Even with Apple out there showing the way it took years for other systems to catch up. Even now many graphics people are loyal to their greatly loved Macs.

The Amiga had a better graphics and sound system. It was popular with graphic artists, musicians, and videographers. It had video processing add-on that was way cheaper than previous professional video effects, so it was viable with smaller broadcast productions. The company that developed it also developed an early 3D animation package:Lightwave.


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Apr 22, 2019 23:01 |  #26

Anyone remember those 300-1200 baud modems connecting to BBS's and using Kermit to transfer files :-)


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Anyone remember those 300-1200 baud modems connecting to BBS's and using Kermit to transfer files :-)

Sure do. The first modem I saw was an actual modulator / demodulator setup. You used a rotary phone to dial another system and then you put the phone down on a cradle built for the handset. It took a long time just to send a message but it was faster than snail mail. It looked like this.

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Apr 23, 2019 06:58 |  #28

Just to remind y-all. Dial-up (external link)


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Apr 23, 2019 07:05 |  #29

I can't remember the movie but when someone connected to send some messages you could hear the modem dial and then go through connecting and negotiating. My kids asked what the heck was that? Why was it making all that noise. :lol:


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I can't remember the movie but when someone connected to send some messages you could hear the modem dial and then go through connecting and negotiating. My kids asked what the heck was that? Why was it making all that noise. :lol:

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