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Apr 02, 2019 14:08 |  #751

Bringing home a fish for the young ones.

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Apr 02, 2019 21:39 |  #752

jccj58 wrote in post #18839168 (external link)
Bringing home a fish for the young ones.

John

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Nice work!

What's with all the 500mm owners? just don't see much posted here... we need to reel in more to these forums


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Apr 04, 2019 13:02 |  #753

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Nice work!

What's with all the 500mm owners? just don't see much posted here... we need to reel in more to these forums

Thank you, and I agree!

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Apr 04, 2019 13:07 |  #754

Dad bringing in a little moss for the nest.

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Apr 06, 2019 01:04 |  #755

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Dad bringing in a little moss for the nest.

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Nice work!! One of the most entertaining species to capture


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May 14, 2019 10:24 |  #756

I'm certain this has been asked to death, but what is a recommended tripod/ball head for this beast of a lens? I'm aware that these can go for the cost of a small lens, though looking for any recommendations below the $500 range (both legs/head). Is it typical to buy the head separate from the legs?


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May 14, 2019 10:58 |  #757

Head will definitely be a separate purchase.
Your budget is not really going to work for this, unless you really are able to work some bargain hunting magic.

I STRONGLY advise you to NOT try and solve this problem on the cheap. You will only end up paying for it twice or more.


You want at least a "3 Series" set of legs in the "systematic" style (removable top plate, no center column)
Gitzo set this standard numbering for their once exclusive Systematic series, but today there are many that make similar products, though only Gitzo uses the name "Systematic".

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Gitzo Systematic Tripods left to right series 3, 4, and 5. Photo Courtesy of The-Digital-Picture.com
https://www.the-digital-picture.com …-Carbon-Fiber-Tripod.aspx (external link)


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As I said, 3 Series is the go to size for this lens. Some will step up to 4 or 5 series (five being the largest/highest capacity) but for most 500mm shooters, the 5 series is more than we really need or want to lug around. (or pay for)

- Gitzo remains the gold standard,
- RRS makes what may possibly be considered a superior "Platinum" standard.
- Induro's "Grande" series is a systematic style that I feel is a great option
- Leophoto is the newest cost/performance (bang for your buck) leader


For a head, you really will want to look straight at either of two options;

- "Full Gimbal" head: If this tripod set up is going to be dedicated to this lens alone, go for the full gimbal head, like a Wimberley, Lensmaster, or others.

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https://www.amazon.com …bal-Head-II/dp/B005JXEZEK (external link)

- Ballhead with Sidekick half gimbal: More than likely however, this new dandy set of legs can be your new best all purpose tripod. In which case you want a sturdy ball head that can handle the double duty tasks of general photography AND holding your large lens with an accessory called a Sidekick that turns your normal head into a gimbal;
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https://www.amazon.com …00-Sidekick/dp/B006NS93GK (external link)

Ballheads that are good for use with a Sidekick include;

- Markins M/Q20 (note, if I am not mistaken, Wimberley's own promo shot is using a Markins head in the image)
- Sirui K30x or K40X
- Most heads that have a 40mm ball or larger, but don't skimp here. This will become your ONE tripod head,. AND it also needs to be beefy enough and smooth enough to work with your Sidemount Gimbal.

I've been using a Markins M20 since about 2005 with a sidekick and prefer it to my "Full Wimberley Gimbal" in most situations due to flexibility and portability.

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May 14, 2019 11:22 |  #758

PS

This is an re-post of an old list, but most of it is still pertinent;

-=The 500mm f/4L IS Accessories List=-

Here's the short list; (with links in blue)

Canon extenders 1.4X (external link) and 2X Teleconverters (external link)

Gitzo GT35433LS Carbon Fiber tripod (external link) Weight - 4.48 lbs

Full Wimberly Head (external link) Weight - 3.15 lb

or Markins Q20/Solid Ballhead with Sidekick (external link) Weight - Sidekick: 1.30 lb - Markins: 1.2 lbs

Gitzo GSLVLS Leveling base (external link) Weight - 1.32 lbs

Kenisis L511 bag (external link)

Better Beamer Flash Extender (external link)

Wimberly Telephoto Flash Bracket (external link) Weight - 0.60 lb


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May 14, 2019 17:42 |  #759

I'm a new owner of this lens. Definitely heavy for hand-holding but I guess I'm stubborn and don't like using tripods or monopods. I do have two tripods and a monopod that I don't use. Also have a ballhead and a full gimbal (Benro GH2).

I guess my question is, is anyone carrying this lens using a strap? Been looking at different straps but would love to hear actual experiences from what works and what doesn't.

Looking forward to using this lens this weekend and hopefully come back to this forum with some nice photos. :-)


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May 14, 2019 18:27 |  #760

I attach Optech long lens connectors to the lens, and use a regular Optech strap, or an Optech sling strap depending on what I am doing. (the sling if I am not using any other support)


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May 14, 2019 18:35 |  #761

tariktik wrote in post #18861461 (external link)
I'm a new owner of this lens. Definitely heavy for hand-holding but I guess I'm stubborn and don't like using tripods or monopods. I do have two tripods and a monopod that I don't use. Also have a ballhead and a full gimbal (Benro GH2).

I guess my question is, is anyone carrying this lens using a strap? Been looking at different straps but would love to hear actual experiences from what works and what doesn't.

Looking forward to using this lens this weekend and hopefully come back to this forum with some nice photos. :-)

Black Rapid dual works great for me, either dual with a 100-400 on the other side, or just as a solo with one half of the dual strap.


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May 14, 2019 23:22 |  #762

Thanks for the inputs. Will definitely check those. :-)


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May 15, 2019 03:51 |  #763

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May 16, 2019 00:49 |  #764

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18861292 (external link)
Head will definitely be a separate purchase.
Your budget is not really going to work for this, unless you really are able to work some bargain hunting magic.

I STRONGLY advise you to NOT try and solve this problem on the cheap. You will only end up paying for it twice or more.


You want at least a "3 Series" set of legs in the "systematic" style (removable top plate, no center column)
Gitzo set this standard numbering for their once exclusive Systematic series, but today there are many that make similar products, though only Gitzo uses the name "Systematic".
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Gitzo Systematic Tripods left to right series 3, 4, and 5. Photo Courtesy of The-Digital-Picture.com
https://www.the-digital-picture.com …-Carbon-Fiber-Tripod.aspx (external link)


QUOTED IMAGE
Photo Courtesy of The-Digital-Picture.com
https://www.the-digital-picture.com …-Carbon-Fiber-Tripod.aspx (external link)

As I said, 3 Series is the go to size for this lens. Some will step up to 4 or 5 series (five being the largest/highest capacity) but for most 500mm shooters, the 5 series is more than we really need or want to lug around. (or pay for)

- Gitzo remains the gold standard,
- RRS makes what may possibly be considered a superior "Platinum" standard.
- Induro's "Grande" series is a systematic style that I feel is a great option
- Leophoto is the newest cost/performance (bang for your buck) leader


For a head, you really will want to look straight at either of two options;

- "Full Gimbal" head: If this tripod set up is going to be dedicated to this lens alone, go for the full gimbal head, like a Wimberley, Lensmaster, or others.
I'm still rollin with a Gitzo from 2004 + Arca Swiss Z1; So ya do get what you pay for, the things just LAST, take abuse...


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https://www.amazon.com …bal-Head-II/dp/B005JXEZEK (external link)

- Ballhead with Sidekick half gimbal: More than likely however, this new dandy set of legs can be your new best all purpose tripod. In which case you want a sturdy ball head that can handle the double duty tasks of general photography AND holding your large lens with an accessory called a Sidekick that turns your normal head into a gimbal;
QUOTED IMAGE

https://www.amazon.com …00-Sidekick/dp/B006NS93GK (external link)

Ballheads that are good for use with a Sidekick include;

- Markins M/Q20 (note, if I am not mistaken, Wimberley's own promo shot is using a Markins head in the image)
- Sirui K30x or K40X
- Most heads that have a 40mm ball or larger, but don't skimp here. This will become your ONE tripod head,. AND it also needs to be beefy enough and smooth enough to work with your Sidemount Gimbal.

I've been using a Markins M20 since about 2005 with a sidekick and prefer it to my "Full Wimberley Gimbal" in most situations due to flexibility and portability.


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May 19, 2019 18:02 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #765

Excellent! Thank you for the information and links! I figured the tripod part wasn't going to be cheap, but it was worth a shot ;) I'll have to pick one up soon.


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