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Jun 04, 2019 12:38 |  #29491

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I'm on the fence about grabbing another 70-200 gm. Its massive, expensive, and not the sharpest telephoto available, but extremely versatile with great autofocus for weddings. 85mm is long enough for the majority of what I shoot, but there are time when I need longer focal lengths. Plus if I ever want super telephoto focal lengths, I can add the extenders to my kit.

The flipside is that I can easily rent this lens as needed and still come out ahead because it's so expensive...its just a hassle.

Bokeh is not 85gm caliber...but neither are any of the 135's. This is what pushes me back to the 70-200.

I hate that this lens makes so much sense for me. Tamron apparently has a telephoto zoom in the works. I am going to preorder their UWA as soon as it's available. I just question the autofocus performance since I'd be using it for critical work.

I would offer to sell it back to you...but I love it too much to do that...I use it a lot...


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Jun 04, 2019 14:14 |  #29492

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Randal I've got mixed emotions on this one. Great work indeed.
I do wonder why/how she is so stiff looking? But that could be the intent eh, or maybe
she is just 'muscled' that way.
Regardless very intriguing.


she is very toned and muscular~ish.. but yes I see what you are saying


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Jun 04, 2019 14:25 |  #29493

One from earlier in the year!!

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Jun 04, 2019 14:57 |  #29494

Taken on Keiran's A6000 when I first bought it with the Voigtlander 40/1.4 Classic M mount attached.

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Jun 04, 2019 15:24 |  #29495

mystik610 wrote in post #18872488 (external link)
I'm on the fence about grabbing another 70-200 gm. Its massive, expensive, and not the sharpest telephoto available, but extremely versatile with great autofocus for weddings. 85mm is long enough for the majority of what I shoot, but there are time when I need longer focal lengths. Plus if I ever want super telephoto focal lengths, I can add the extenders to my kit.

The flipside is that I can easily rent this lens as needed and still come out ahead because it's so expensive...its just a hassle.

Bokeh is not 85gm caliber...but neither are any of the 135's. This is what pushes me back to the 70-200.

I hate that this lens makes so much sense for me. Tamron apparently has a telephoto zoom in the works. I am going to preorder their UWA as soon as it's available. I just question the autofocus performance since I'd be using it for critical work.

I can see how you're mentally deciding on what direction to go.

I'm in a situation where I've settled for a GM70-200. I will simply buy an 85mm f/1.8 as a small lens to put in my lens pouch on my spider holster belt.

My logic is cheaper 85mm f/1.8 will focus on any thing your throw at it. Documenting without missing a beat with extremely nice bokeh. Some tests have proven the cheaper 85mm locks in low light better than the GMaster. I think one to note is Manny Ortiz doing a comparison.

The beauty of 85mm is a beautiful balance of perspective and subject/camera distance. The 70-200 Gmaster is just a killer versatile lens that will not miss a beat but heavier and at f/2.8.

I think you just have to decide how much you will use a 70-200. Renting a lens is just extra effort IMO but more easier on the wallet. You can charge additional or incorporate the cost of rental in your charge rate. If your a Sony lover you may just bite the bullet and keep a lens for long term use and your done. The 3rd party glass will never exceed or be completely on par with native glass. However we must determine if the AF is "good enough" to satisfy your demands and needs.

I love my Canon 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 on my Canon system but I CANNOT use it on my Sony A73. I just have zero tolerance to any hiccups and the tracking just isn't meeting my needs. This is one reason why I bought the Gmaster 70-200 for my Sony.

I know my Tammy 28-75mm is not as accurate as my GMaster 16-35 in low light events shooting. Indeed different focal length zoom but when my Gmaster locks eye AF it LOCKS. My Tammy has supposedly locked eye AF in low light giving my useless blurry shots. Not often but I did notice this with Tammy's focus in low light.

I've yet to purchase the FE 85 f/1.8. Currently I'm debating on buying a new A9 or just buy a GMaster 85mm and another A73 as a spare. I just dont use my Sony's for hired events work ......yet.

We just really must choose our hardware to assure it meets our needs.

IMO you cannot go wrong with purchasing a GMaster 70-200 for what you shoot. I'd also say throw your camera in crop mode and appreciate your 18MP files. Win win!


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Jun 04, 2019 15:52 |  #29496

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #18872221 (external link)
Yes to all of that Daniel.
I'm not committed to any 1 system.
If Nikon puts out a function mirrorless that will work the 500PF I'd have no choice.
But it will require an adapter don't you think ????
Adapters have really come a long way, well the MC-11 has. Shooting the DOii on the Sony is such a pleasure
now...............but it is still an adapter :(

I agree that native is always the better option, especially for high end gear. Adapters have gotten really good though and I hear good things about the FTZ adapter. I just wish Sony would jump on the DO/PF bandwagon because they are the perfect system for it.


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Jun 04, 2019 15:57 |  #29497

mystik610 wrote in post #18872488 (external link)
I'm on the fence about grabbing another 70-200 gm. Its massive, expensive, and not the sharpest telephoto available, but extremely versatile with great autofocus for weddings. 85mm is long enough for the majority of what I shoot, but there are time when I need longer focal lengths. Plus if I ever want super telephoto focal lengths, I can add the extenders to my kit.

The flipside is that I can easily rent this lens as needed and still come out ahead because it's so expensive...its just a hassle.

Bokeh is not 85gm caliber...but neither are any of the 135's. This is what pushes me back to the 70-200.

I hate that this lens makes so much sense for me. Tamron apparently has a telephoto zoom in the works. I am going to preorder their UWA as soon as it's available. I just question the autofocus performance since I'd be using it for critical work.

I know how you feel. The 70-200 checks a lot of boxes, but is kind of pricey (for me) since I don't use it all the time. If I was shooting paid work consistently I'd probably pick one up because it delivers where it counts.


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Jun 04, 2019 16:04 |  #29498

Another shot from my recent visit to the beach and an image I reworked from another shoot.

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Jun 04, 2019 18:01 |  #29499

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Another shot from my recent visit to the beach and an image I reworked from another shoot.

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Dude, really digging that 2nd one!


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Jun 04, 2019 18:06 |  #29500

AlanU wrote in post #18872604 (external link)
I can see how you're mentally deciding on what direction to go.

I'm in a situation where I've settled for a GM70-200. I will simply buy an 85mm f/1.8 as a small lens to put in my lens pouch on my spider holster belt.

My logic is cheaper 85mm f/1.8 will focus on any thing your throw at it. Documenting without missing a beat with extremely nice bokeh. Some tests have proven the cheaper 85mm locks in low light better than the GMaster. I think one to note is Manny Ortiz doing a comparison.

The beauty of 85mm is a beautiful balance of perspective and subject/camera distance. The 70-200 Gmaster is just a killer versatile lens that will not miss a beat but heavier and at f/2.8.

I think you just have to decide how much you will use a 70-200. Renting a lens is just extra effort IMO but more easier on the wallet. You can charge additional or incorporate the cost of rental in your charge rate. If your a Sony lover you may just bite the bullet and keep a lens for long term use and your done. The 3rd party glass will never exceed or be completely on par with native glass. However we must determine if the AF is "good enough" to satisfy your demands and needs.

I love my Canon 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 on my Canon system but I CANNOT use it on my Sony A73. I just have zero tolerance to any hiccups and the tracking just isn't meeting my needs. This is one reason why I bought the Gmaster 70-200 for my Sony.

I know my Tammy 28-75mm is not as accurate as my GMaster 16-35 in low light events shooting. Indeed different focal length zoom but when my Gmaster locks eye AF it LOCKS. My Tammy has supposedly locked eye AF in low light giving my useless blurry shots. Not often but I did notice this with Tammy's focus in low light.

I've yet to purchase the FE 85 f/1.8. Currently I'm debating on buying a new A9 or just buy a GMaster 85mm and another A73 as a spare. I just dont use my Sony's for hired events work ......yet.

We just really must choose our hardware to assure it meets our needs.

IMO you cannot go wrong with purchasing a GMaster 70-200 for what you shoot. I'd also say throw your camera in crop mode and appreciate your 18MP files. Win win!

I bit the bullet and bought a used 70-200 GM locally today. I'm not going to lie, it was a tough decision to make with all the 135mm hype going on, but it's definitely more of a need than a want....I have 4 weddings in the pipeline and it's a best tool for the job type of situation. I made do without a 70-200 a couple of times but it involved some compromises at times. Plus I need something longer than 85mm for posed portraits, and stuff for the kids....sports, dance recitals, etc.

85mm will always be my main portrait focal length, but a 70-200 zoom just fills so many gaps in my line-up even though its massive and expensive. 135GM and Sigma 135 are definitely sharper, but I think the 70-200 is more than sharp enough and realistically at telephoto focal lengths, not much difference between f1.8 and f2.8 in terms of degree of blur @135mm.


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Jun 04, 2019 21:01 |  #29501

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love the look of the 35ZA...great action shots of some fun looking pups.

The 35mm f/1.4 has been easily one of my favorite purchases. Its a very very good lens with a great look to it, The Zeiss glass in general seems to really give a lovely "pop" to my corgis. Plus the AF is pretty darn quick


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Jun 04, 2019 21:40 |  #29502

I captured this scene this morning at our Japanese Tea Garden. What drew my was the curve of the path, the steps, and the bamboo flanking the side. One of my goals is to visit Japan and find scenes like this to photograph.

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Jun 04, 2019 23:08 |  #29503

Posting some stuff from a trip out to the Banff-Jasper area, some really nice colours and reflections in the lakes this year.

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Jun 05, 2019 11:00 |  #29505

Spirit Island in Jasper.

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