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Jun 22, 2019 08:30 |  #121

My 24-70 version 2 lens was much slower to hit focus on the A7iii then It was on the 1Dx2....Way slower. I could not get it into a dark environment to test it in the dark

But based on the testing i did ... I felt it would not work well

With the 1Dx2 it was Snap/Boom focus locked

With the A7iii it was Snaaaaaap/Boooooom

It was notable difference to me so I am surprised that Suzie got better results as I used the same adapter


Suzie would you mind doing a comparison as to speed of the A7iii v/s the 5D4 with that 24-70. I think you will find that if you really pay attention to the speed of focus lock, then the 5D4 will be much faster. That was my finding. Sure, focus would lock in light like you and Teamspeed have shown with the flower shots....but it was notably slower to me

I could definitely use it outside when in plenty of light and static type shots. Eas not so sure on a moving subject. It was not as fast But it could be used. i was afraid it would really lag in poor light and darker environments and I was really afraid it would miss a moving bride on a processional


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Jun 22, 2019 13:42 |  #122

The M50 + Viltrox Booster + 24-70II seems to lock focus (one shot mode) pretty quickly in low light. As I got deeper into the basement and things had less contrast, the combo thought for a bit then focused.

I focused on the Sigma lettering and the exposure is close to what I see with my eyes, this basement just has a few windows at the end, and this is probably about near the low end for a reception hall. Any darker, and you may have injuries with people tripping over things, etc. It locked on pretty quickly, it had a tiny lag vs when I focused on more contrasty or lit subjects.


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Jun 22, 2019 13:53 |  #123

Here are a couple of other shots while I had the M50 out with the 24-70 and Viltrox booster. Nice combo, I like it. I loved the SL2, but this beats it out for general usability. Shot here at 50mm f2.


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Jun 22, 2019 15:16 |  #124

It's your fault I just hunted for 2 days for my M50 and M100 with all the gear. I'm going to try the M50 with the adapter and some L glass to see what to keep. I'm giving my 19 year old who does video the M100 with 15-45 to take with him to college. I may have to do a review of the M100, Sony a7iii and my trusty 5DIV with the same L primes and zooms to compare. I guess it was a good thing I bought one of those wagon things to carry the 15 pounds of gear I'll have to take with me. :)


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Jun 22, 2019 18:14 |  #125

JeffreyG wrote in post #18881107 (external link)
I can tell you that the adapter becomes a hassle if you are the kind of person changing lenses fairly often.

Adapters are always a hassle. Using adapters is a game that gets old very quickly, IMO.




  
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Jun 22, 2019 18:17 |  #126

ed rader wrote in post #18881129 (external link)
you can get canon adapters for like 70 bucks if you shop around.

It's funny how the ridiculously high prices of camera gear recalibrates one's perception of value.

You know, to me, 70 bucks is not insignificant. It's, well, 70 bucks!




  
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Jun 22, 2019 18:18 |  #127

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Don't dump the 135L :) It's one of those lenses that won't be the same after it gets RF-ified (optically or price-wise), and while it's definitely my least used lens, whenever it comes time to use it I'm really happy to have it. I'm very cutthroat about trimming excess/non-used gear, but the 135L has remained on the island.

It's still early in the game, the R mount is barely a year old. Lenses always have the early adopter tax tacked on for a few months/to a year after release, so let's see what happens come Black Friday and the holiday season. Look at it from another angle: the bread and butter point-and-shoot market is gone, the brands aren't raking in the easy money there anymore, it sucks for us, but they have to bring it in elsewhere. Sony and Nikon lenses are equal or far more expensive too, so no one is making it easy on the wallet for FF.

Fuji is awesome, I recommend testing the waters. Having owned the x100F for coming up on a year now, I've also recently borrowed a friend's xt-20 and a few lenses. Very high quality build, the lenses are really nice and crisp (18-55, 14 f/2.8, 27 f/2.8) but really small/light, and the best part is that they're all very affordable when you compare to the big FF systems. The Fujis are the only cameras that go out with me anymore b/c of the size, but when it comes time to shoot portraits my Canon primes are unmatched. Fuji does have some awesome portrait lenses to check out (56mm f/1.2) too, but I haven't commited that deeply yet.

Each brand has something to offer, and it might be a good time to diversify. With the goal of keeping costs low, grab a clean, used last generation body + an affordable lens or two, and see how you like it. Not only will you get to see what all the hype is about, you'll also come to appreciate what you have in your Canon system.

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Jun 22, 2019 18:26 |  #128

anytime a new product is released there is a wailing and a wringing of hands about cost. I know change is scary but we're gonna be okay :-)


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Jun 23, 2019 00:56 |  #129

I feel this is wise to wait and see. RF glass is going to take a bit to be released so using EF is the main option for many. I hope that this doesn't turn out to be a repeat as we see with the M platform but those bodies were not the primary target market for the high line FF SLR users. (I pondered why intentionally cripple a system but that is how Canon may have viewed this platform to experiment in that segment. In some respects the EF-S for the APS-C line-up too.)




  
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Jun 27, 2019 10:55 |  #130

so I talked to my repair guy about repairing older lenses that canon no longer supports like the 500L f4 IS. he said he gets his parts from Canon. with two more versions of this discontinued lens already released you know what that means. of course there's always ebay and other internet sources for parts.

my feeling is for $2500-$3000 it's worth buying this lens which would probably never need repair unless you damage it.


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Jun 27, 2019 12:17 |  #131

ed rader wrote in post #18884583 (external link)
so I talked to my repair guy about repairing older lenses that canon no longer supports like the 500L f4 IS. he said he gets his parts from Canon. with two more versions of this discontinued lens already released you know what that means. of course there's always ebay and other internet sources for parts.

my feeling is for $2500-$3000 it's worth buying this lens which would probably never need repair unless you damage it.

My feeling is that it is too big of a risk and it makes me lean towards other options, Nikon has their new 500 f5.6 PF lens for $3600 brand new, sure you lose a stop but knowing it will be supported is nice. The Nikon lens is also small and light.

I have been considering getting one of the big Canon lenses this year but the uncertainty of the direction Canon is headed is giving me pause, that and the fact I expect any new R mount big lenses will be insanely expensive.




  
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Jun 27, 2019 12:27 |  #132

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My feeling is that it is too big of a risk and it makes me lean towards other options, Nikon has their new 500 f5.6 PF lens for $3600 brand new, sure you lose a stop but knowing it will be supported is nice. The Nikon lens is also small and light.

I have been considering getting one of the big Canon lenses this year but the uncertainty of the direction Canon is headed is giving me pause, that and the fact I expect any new R mount big lenses will be insanely expensive.


My thoughts as well. I am going to get the 150-600 sport from Sigma this fall. With clean sensors on the 1Dx2 and 5D4 it just makes sense. Bump the ISO to 1600 and you cant see any noise.... Hard to beat 600MM and with a 1.4 which the sigma handles very well, that puts you at 840mm on a FF. Not much I cant do in post anymore to soften backgrounds


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Jun 27, 2019 13:03 |  #133

ed rader wrote in post #18884583 (external link)
so I talked to my repair guy about repairing older lenses that canon no longer supports like the 500L f4 IS. he said he gets his parts from Canon. with two more versions of this discontinued lens already released you know what that means. of course there's always ebay and other internet sources for parts.

my feeling is for $2500-$3000 it's worth buying this lens which would probably never need repair unless you damage it.

i played with a 500f4IS mkI the other day...it was nice to use...he told me he'd sell it to me for $2,500...i'm not sure what to do...not really all that concerned with breaking/repair issues...but at the same time not sure if it's really worth it to me. going to see if he still has it in a couple weeks


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Jun 27, 2019 13:32 |  #134

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My thoughts as well. I am going to get the 150-600 sport from Sigma this fall. With clean sensors on the 1Dx2 and 5D4 it just makes sense. Bump the ISO to 1600 and you cant see any noise.... Hard to beat 600MM and with a 1.4 which the sigma handles very well, that puts you at 840mm on a FF. Not much I cant do in post anymore to soften backgrounds

I have the Contemporary 150-600, and it is amazing. I've used it with a 1.4X II and 2X II, on a R and no complaints
never thought to use a TC on the 5D4


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Jun 27, 2019 13:32 |  #135

umphotography wrote in post #18884630 (external link)
My thoughts as well. I am going to get the 150-600 sport from Sigma this fall. With clean sensors on the 1Dx2 and 5D4 it just makes sense. Bump the ISO to 1600 and you cant see any noise.... Hard to beat 600MM and with a 1.4 which the sigma handles very well, that puts you at 840mm on a FF. Not much I cant do in post anymore to soften backgrounds

You might want to consider the contemporary, there is no optical differences. Just depends if you want the heavier construction of the sport or not really...

Here is the 2x on the Sigma on the 5D4, manually focused though:

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