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Jun 28, 2019 06:14 |  #1

Is it really worth it to get the Canon 80D would i notice better quality in my photos, ill just say i dont do videos thank you...Happy:-)


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Jun 28, 2019 08:31 |  #2

It's only 4 megapixels more, although slightly better dynamic range. I'd say no. My brother went from a 60D to an 80D and he said he didn't notice a difference, and you would be making an even smaller jump. The rumor is a 90D is on the way with 32 megapixels, that might make a difference and be worth waiting for if you are in the mood to make a jump up.


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Jun 28, 2019 08:37 |  #3

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It's only 4 megapixels more, although slightly better dynamic range. I'd say no. My brother went from a 60D to an 80D and he said he didn't notice a difference, and you would be making an even smaller jump. The rumor is a 90D is on the way with 32 megapixels, that might make a difference and be worth waiting for if you are in the mood to make a jump up.

Thank you Patrick wasnt sure but that will do for me ill stay as i am thank you Patrick...Happy:-D


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Jun 28, 2019 08:50 |  #4

I'd say it depends on the total cost. If you sell the 70D for a decent price and pick up a 80D for a decent price, it might be worth it. I've seen 70Ds FS in the 400~500 range and 80Ds in the 600~700 range. For 100~200 out of pocket, I'd consider it.


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Jun 28, 2019 10:36 as a reply to  @ patrick j's post |  #5

I dont agree with that statement at all. The AF system on the 80D is miles above the 60D with regards to tracking speed, # of points, accuracy, frame coverage, etc. The 80D can keep up with a 1DIV in regards to AF (for the most part) and has better image quality than the 1DIV.

The image quality may not be a massive step up from previous xxD models, but in every other way the 80D is a very very large jump up form a 60D.
The 80D is also a good step up from the 70D by:
an extra 4MP
HUGE difference (better) in LiveView/Movie DPAF tracking and overall performance.
Much better dynamic range and noise control

I have owned and shot each of these cameras for years. This is not just a second hand account.
The 80D is a MUCH better camera than *any* of its predecessors. Period.

Is it worth buying now and spending a good amount on upgrading from a 70D to an 80D? that is up to the user...only you will know.
If less than $200 or so I would without question say yes. Any more than that I would (personally) not advise it.

The 90D is supposed to be pretty spectacular. I would wait. At the very least it will help drive the prices down on 80D's...

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Jun 28, 2019 10:40 |  #6

This deal is still active.


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Jun 28, 2019 10:53 |  #7

HyperCams wrote in post #18885148 (external link)
The image quality may not be a massive step up from previous xxD models, but in every other way the 80D is a very very large jump up form a 60D.

There is a substantial improvement in low light IQ. Unfortunately, I can not comment on the 70D.


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Jun 28, 2019 11:51 |  #8

patrick j wrote in post #18885085 (external link)
It's only 4 megapixels more, although slightly better dynamic range. I'd say no. My brother went from a 60D to an 80D and he said he didn't notice a difference, and you would be making an even smaller jump. The rumor is a 90D is on the way with 32 megapixels, that might make a difference and be worth waiting for if you are in the mood to make a jump up.

Does he shoot JPEG or raw? If one shoots raw, I would think the differences would be more noticeable. Alot of sensor sins are hidden by Canon in their JPEG engine/conversion.


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Jun 28, 2019 12:35 |  #9

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Does he shoot JPEG or raw? If one shoots raw, I would think the differences would be more noticeable. Alot of sensor sins are hidden by Canon in their JPEG engine/conversion.

I always shoot jpeg, would this make a vast difference, ive never shoot in raw, as i dont know how to handle the editing:cry:


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Jun 28, 2019 12:38 |  #10

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I always shoot jpeg, would this make a vast difference, ive never shoot in raw, as i dont know how to handle the editing:cry:

DPP is free. And you have a lot of creative choices when you process a RAW file. I would give it a shot...so to speak...


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Jun 28, 2019 12:44 |  #11

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I always shoot jpeg, would this make a vast difference, ive never shoot in raw, as i dont know how to handle the editing:cry:

The newer bodies have a better JPEG engine than the older bodies. In other words there was quite a bit more to gain by using raw. Today, unless you are pretty good at processing the raw to JPEG and then processing the JPEG, you won't gain much.

The two largest advantages to raw are a) that it holds at least 1/2 stop extra detail at the ends of the exposure range, so that just because the file looks blown out on highlights, they may actually be salvageable in the raw and 2) you can correct for exposure and white balance much easier.

My original point was that perhaps one reason a person never sees a difference between their 70D and 80D shots is that they are looking at camera generated JPEGs, and aren't really shooting in more of the challenging situations like high DR scenes where the 80D is much better at ISO 800 or less for pulling up shadows, or high ISO that is a bit underexposed and brightened later.


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I had a 6D. I sold it when I got the 80D. One stop of high ISO performance was a small price to pay for everything I gained.

4mp better resolution, albeit on smaller sensor.
DPAF that works.
Touch screen.
Tilt & Swivel screen.
EC in Manual.
All sorts of video options.
Flicker detection.
Intervalometer.
Auto white balance that works like you want it to.
Built in OC flash control.
Way better AF, in every way.

That is off the top of my head; there may be more.


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Jun 28, 2019 18:15 |  #13

PentaxShooter wrote in post #18885270 (external link)
I had a 6D. I sold it when I got the 80D. One stop of high ISO performance was a small price to pay for everything I gained.

4mp better resolution, albeit on smaller sensor.
DPAF that works.
Touch screen.
Tilt & Swivel screen.
EC in Manual.
All sorts of video options.
Flicker detection.
Intervalometer.
Auto white balance that works like you want it to.
Built in OC flash control.
Way better AF, in every way.

That is off the top of my head; there may be more.

Most of these things are also on a 70D (I use a 70D I should add). Dual Pixel, Tilt and touch screen, level indicator (I like that feature), and for me white balance is usually correct, or quite close. Not sure about flicker detection or the flash thing, and I'm sure they improved autofocus from the 70d to 80d. So in the feature department most things are there already in the 70d, the 80d would represent an improvement in some of these features, but not something new.


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Jun 28, 2019 22:53 |  #14

I own both 70D and 80D.

The 80D is better, but unless you just need another camera body I’d wait for the next iteration.

Do you shoot lots of photos indoors and low light? That is where I have seen the biggest difference.

Outdoor sports I don’t notice it as much. I do shoot raw 100%.




  
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Jul 02, 2019 14:55 |  #15

I recently heard a trusted photography teacher say that 80% of the quality in a photo today is in the processing chip, more so than the sensor.


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