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Thinking of getting some new lighting gear: Godox X2T vs XPro

 
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Jul 02, 2019 09:37 |  #1

So I haven't really dabbled much with off camera lighting in the past, I only have a very old Nikon SB50 DX and SB700 with some cheap cowboy studio triggers. I wanted to start doing more portrait work, mainly outdoor and environmental stuff. So I was looking to pick up a Godox AD200 and another in a while and use the AD-B2 for when I need to try to overpower the sun. As far as triggers go, the XPro2 is currently the best on the market as far as I can tell. But the X2T will be released shortly and while the price is nearly the same, I kinda like the idea that it has a hot shoe on top as well so that I could potentially do some on camera bounce and even still utilize my cowboy studio trigger to remotely fire my Nikon speedlites if needed. Now the question is, how often do you think I would realistically be doing that? Is this something you guys/gals do very often? I was wanting to order the equipment this week, but as far as I can tell, the X2T isn't available yet and I am not sure when it will be.




  
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Jul 02, 2019 15:59 |  #2

Just me, but I don't think the X2T does TCM. While the spec tables and purchase listings all say it does TCM, I can't find any other evidence in the user manual (external link) that it does. There's no description of how to use/trigger it; no dedicated TCM button; no TCM C.Fn.

I also don't ever use an on-camera speedlight with off-camera ones, but I'm a hobbyist shooter and I don't do events. And I basically just caved and got all Godox speedlights for the convenience of the built-in triggers, so I'd probably use my TT350/TT685 on-camera as both a flash and radio transmitter if I had that requirement, rather than stacking stuff.


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Jul 03, 2019 00:05 |  #3

If the Godox x2T has the same footing as the X1T, it's a deal breaker. When you use a flash on the piggy back hotshoe the trigger looks like it'll break.

If your going to use it solo with no flash on top I think it's been methodically designed. Tactile knob and push button group buttons is fantastic.

If your shooting events just use a V860ii on camrea and adjust the remote flash in this manner. I have the Godox V1 and I'll say adjusting remote flash is great BUT!!!!!


The dial on the V1 is absolute garbage!!! you'll tag the "mode" dial on the bottom and you'll suddently wonder why your in Manual mode when you were shooting TTL. This is easily tapped by your forehead or just handling the camera while running and gunning.

If you're shooting with remote flash and do not need a flash on camera shoe I'd just buy the Pro trigger. If you really need a hotshoe on the trigger these triggers are dirt cheap. I'd suggest buying it for redundancy.


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Jul 03, 2019 03:36 |  #4

I would get the XPro, maybe the 685TT and/or the V1


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Jul 03, 2019 14:23 |  #5

I have never been in a situation in which I needed or wanted to piggyback my triggers. I have switched totally to Godox/Flashpoint flash gear. I use both the hotshoe flashes as well as the TTL 360...

I have two Flashpoint Pro S TTL Transmitters for Sony cameras and one original transmitter and one R2 Pro C TTL Transmitter for my Canon cameras. I often shoot with a pair of cameras and that is the reason that I own a pair of transmitters for each brand camera.

The Flashpoint gear is a Godox rebranded for sale by Adorama. I tend to purchase all of my Godox gear as Flashpoint from Adorama because I like Adoramas after sale customer service. Adorama occasionally has sales on Flashpoint gear and that is how I purchased the second R2 Pro Transmitter for each camera brand as well as my Flashpoint TTL-360 flash.

Many photographers prefer the Flashpoint 200 over the TTL-360 because of the integrated battery, However, I personally prefer the TTL-360 because I like to have my battery attached to the base of my light stand which makes the battery into a weight to hold the light stand pretty securely (however outdoors, I still use sand bags with large modifiers)...

One of the greatest advantage of Godox/Flashpoint gear is that the gear is integrated across camera brands. In other words, I did not need to purchase all new flashes when I added the Sony A6500 and A6400 to my camera gear. I simply purchased dedicated Sony transmitters which allowed me to use my TTL 360 and other flash units with the new Sony cameras. I also like the fact that each flash unit has a transmitter and a receiver built in and that I can control flashes using other flash units or the designed transmitters.

I like the Godox X2T (Flashpoint R2 Pro) transmitter better than the original X1T because it is easier to use. However, the X1T is smaller and rides lower on my hotshoe.


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Jul 03, 2019 17:21 |  #6

I’d use an optical trigger on the strobe/speedlight before I piggy backed triggers.


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Jul 03, 2019 19:23 |  #7

Angmo wrote in post #18887859 (external link)
I’d use an optical trigger on the strobe/speedlight before I piggy backed triggers.

If I run and gun at a reception/event indoors I couldn't control the power remotely. Sometimes I'd want more than 1/16 power .......


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Jul 03, 2019 21:31 |  #8

AlanU wrote in post #18887932 (external link)
If I run and gun at a reception/event indoors I couldn't control the power remotely. Sometimes I'd want more than 1/16 power .......

I use all Elinchrom. They all work great together. Even off an iPhone for control & control from the trigger.


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Jul 08, 2019 10:18 |  #9

I ended up getting two AD200's and the AD-B2 with the XPro controller. I haven't used lighting much at all before, but decided to have a small shoot with my GF on Saturday. I used the AD-B2 with a 7" reflector to fill in some shadows while backlighting her with the sun. I still have lots to learn, but it was pretty fun experimenting.

Here are a few shots from Saturday.

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2gtJ​vG1  (external link) DSC_3852-Edit (external link) by Nick Larson (external link), on Flickr

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IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2gsU​Zaz  (external link) DSC_3784 (external link) by Nick Larson (external link), on Flickr

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