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Aug 04, 2019 13:56 |  #31366

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good idea. i already tested the Sigma 105 though. I returned it but now i'm convinced i like it.

I've used my Canon 85L f/1.2 mk2 for many years with my 5dmk3,mk4. I'm very familiar with the 85mm as I've always used it for portraits.

Yesterday I lugged my Sigma 105 f/1.4, Gmaster 70-200 f/2.8 and GM16-35 (kept the Tammy 28-75mm in my pack for spare) for a family session. Besides the FAT PIG weight of the Sigma Bokeh Master.....It's an absolutely exceptional lens. The working distance outdoors is very nice and the image quality (bokeh) without a doubt surpasses my Gmaster 70-200.

I was actually tempted to buy the Gmaster 135mm last day. I held back thinking G.A.S. is getting a bit silly. I never liked the working distance of the Canon 135L f/2 so I stopped in my tracks I'm gonna stick with my 105mm for now.

Off topic..... I was extremely Pissed at my Godox V1. It was not firing "on camera" on two occasions during that session. I've customized my "AF ON" button to adjust the flash compensation. I locked the flash buttons so I do not hit the "MODE" button during usage. The dial button has the most ridiculous location where you can tag it accidentally changing TTL mode to Manual. However I do find my cheap Godox V1 and V860iiS misfires from time to time regardless of what two A73 bodies I use. I hope it's a firmware glitch.


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Aug 04, 2019 13:57 |  #31367

105 is a lot more manageable than 135, and I like the focal length, but no f2 option, so I default to 85 and 135.


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Aug 04, 2019 14:09 |  #31368

Charlie wrote in post #18905038 (external link)
105 is a lot more manageable than 135, and I like the focal length, but no f2 option, so I default to 85 and 135.

The Sony 35 f/1.8 is intriguing me at the moment. The Sony 85 f/1.8 is on my short list for tiny portable killer lens. G.A.S. is bad so i'm just appreciating what I have and deciding on what to do with my Canon gear........


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Aug 04, 2019 14:12 |  #31369

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Aug 04, 2019 15:44 |  #31370

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Is that Point Atkinson Lighthouse?

I forget...why did you return the 105 the first time? I would think 105 isn't going to be all that much different working distance than a 135, especially if you are trying to shoot wide open and a group, you are gonna have to increase your distance to the subject to maximize your DoF.

And as a style point...I think the Holloway look is one I wouldn't be following...sure she is famous and makes big bank but she is really good at marketing and convincing people to part with a lot of money...you have a good style already, go with it, be unique...my two pesos.

My point is if Lisa Holloway and Meg Bitton don't complain about the size and weight of the 200mm F2, why would I complain with the Sigma 105. I was not referring to their style. I have tutorials from both but I did not follow it. I was just curious so I bought their tutorials.

For the working distance, the 105 is way better than the 135. not too far and not too close. still working for kids candids.

yah moving backward can increase DOF but instead of moving, I just stop down my aperture and sacrifice the love of bokeh for the shot.


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Aug 04, 2019 18:32 |  #31371

Mookalafalas wrote in post #18904872 (external link)
My local camera shop has a couple of used Canon 50mm F1.2L (the old full-frame model, not the new one). I'm sort of tempted. Anyone using one with the MC-11? Any comments? Thanks. (BTW, I shoot with an Ar73).

I have the EF 50mm 1.2L and have used it on the A7R3. If you can get a good copy for a decent price, it's a good way to go, but I found the Sony 55mm f/1.8 to be better match with the A7R3.

Yes, it is not f/1.2, but the Sony 55 is a lighter, sharper lens with faster AF than the Canon 50 f/1.2L.

You may also want to consider the weight/balance. A 50L with the MC-11 on an A7R3 makes for a heavy front load.



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Aug 04, 2019 18:59 |  #31372

Timphoto wrote in post #18905150 (external link)
I have the EF 50mm 1.2L and have used it on the A7R3. If you can get a good copy for a decent price, it's a good way to go, but I found the Sony 55mm f/1.8 to be better match with the A7R3.

Yes, it is not f/1.2, but the Sony 55 is a lighter, sharper lens with faster AF than the Canon 50 f/1.2L.

You may also want to consider the weight/balance. A 50L with the MC-11 on an A7R3 makes for a heavy front load.

I'de just go with the samyang 50 f1.4 instead.

I'm pretty sure it has nicer bokeh, AF is good with the latest update (get the dock!), weight and size is acceptable, E mount, good optics.

I'm happy with my cheapo 50 f1.8, but if I were to get a faster 50, that would be my top pick, all other options are simply too big, and not interested in adapting.


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Aug 04, 2019 19:09 |  #31373

AlanU wrote in post #18905048 (external link)
The Sony 35 f/1.8 is intriguing me at the moment. The Sony 85 f/1.8 is on my short list for tiny portable killer lens. G.A.S. is bad so i'm just appreciating what I have and deciding on what to do with my Canon gear........

I would love a 35/100 pair. The 85 is great, often has a reach issue. I may give it more time to force myself to work with 85, however I have had my share of 100/105’s and I like it.

I shot with the 17-28 f2.8 and I like. It’s my second time with an UWA that’s 2.8 and nice for indoor shots.

Can easily pair with 85....... and maybe I should force myself...


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Aug 04, 2019 19:45 |  #31374

Charlie wrote in post #18905162 (external link)
I would love a 35/100 pair. The 85 is great, often has a reach issue. I may give it more time to force myself to work with 85, however I have had my share of 100/105’s and I like it.

I shot with the 17-28 f2.8 and I like. It’s my second time with an UWA that’s 2.8 and nice for indoor shots.

Can easily pair with 85....... and maybe I should force myself...

Often I would shoot an event with my Canon setup with a 16-35mm and 70-200 f/2.8. I would also have a 24mm f/1.4 close by and my 24-70 f/2.8mk2 as a backup . I would rely on a flash (on shoe or my remote flash) or available light in many cases with my 70-200 on my second body. I sold my Canon 85 f/1.8 and even though I have my 85L f/1.2mk2 I didn't use it much due to AF speed.

I'm not super excited about buying the Gmaster 85mm because I seem to gravitate to the 70-200 for my family sessions and events work. Now that I've been testing my Sigma 105mm f/1.4 I'm getting more and more please with the IQ I'm getting compared to my 5dmk4 with 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 and A73 with Gmaster 70-200.

Quite interesting how we can manipulate "personal style" when you're eager to incorporate some experimentation into the mix.

I've been doing more events be it human or cars with the Sony 16-35 and Sigma Fat Pig 105mm f/1.4. Really enjoying the combo but I'll admit the Gmaster at the end of the day will capture more moments and provide more than enough amazing IQ.


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Aug 04, 2019 21:01 |  #31375

Timphoto wrote in post #18905150 (external link)
I have the EF 50mm 1.2L and have used it on the A7R3. If you can get a good copy for a decent price, it's a good way to go, but I found the Sony 55mm f/1.8 to be better match with the A7R3.

Yes, it is not f/1.2, but the Sony 55 is a lighter, sharper lens with faster AF than the Canon 50 f/1.2L.

You may also want to consider the weight/balance. A 50L with the MC-11 on an A7R3 makes for a heavy front load.

Charlie wrote in post #18905157 (external link)
I'de just go with the samyang 50 f1.4 instead.

I'm pretty sure it has nicer bokeh, AF is good with the latest update (get the dock!), weight and size is acceptable, E mount, good optics.

I'm happy with my cheapo 50 f1.8, but if I were to get a faster 50, that would be my top pick, all other options are simply too big, and not interested in adapting.

Thanks, guys. I don't really mind the weight, but do mind the price! You're right the AF isn't that great, but the bokeh is pretty legendary. I guess I've decided to get a second hand Canon nifty-fifty for $55. It has super slow AF, especially with the MC-11, but apparently the Sony 1.8 is wicked slow as well, for 4X the price.

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Aug 04, 2019 22:08 |  #31376

Mookalafalas wrote in post #18905207 (external link)
Thanks, guys. I don't really mind the weight, but do mind the price! You're right the AF isn't that great, but the bokeh is pretty legendary. I guess I've decided to get a second hand Canon nifty-fifty for $55. It has super slow AF, especially with the MC-11, but apparently the Sony 1.8 is wicked slow as well, for 4X the price.

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naw, the 50 f1.8 isn't slow, it had firmware issues, but it's blazing fast on the A9, and the main reason why I'm not super interested in a fast 50...... the 1.8 is blazing fast on the A9, my primary body these days. It's serviceable on the R2 and R3, faster than adapted for sure.

it has issues with full rack AF, and in that scenario, it can be slowish, but once it locks with the A9, it's hard as heck to shake it. The AF versatility is why I've deviated away from other 50's, just because it works so well.

AlanU wrote in post #18905176 (external link)
Often I would shoot an event with my Canon setup with a 16-35mm and 70-200 f/2.8. I would also have a 24mm f/1.4 close by and my 24-70 f/2.8mk2 as a backup . I would rely on a flash (on shoe or my remote flash) or available light in many cases with my 70-200 on my second body. I sold my Canon 85 f/1.8 and even though I have my 85L f/1.2mk2 I didn't use it much due to AF speed.

I'm not super excited about buying the Gmaster 85mm because I seem to gravitate to the 70-200 for my family sessions and events work. Now that I've been testing my Sigma 105mm f/1.4 I'm getting more and more please with the IQ I'm getting compared to my 5dmk4 with 70-200 f/2.8IS mk2 and A73 with Gmaster 70-200.

Quite interesting how we can manipulate "personal style" when you're eager to incorporate some experimentation into the mix.

I've been doing more events be it human or cars with the Sony 16-35 and Sigma Fat Pig 105mm f/1.4. Really enjoying the combo but I'll admit the Gmaster at the end of the day will capture more moments and provide more than enough amazing IQ.

My shooting buddy has both 85GM and 105 currently, he's a bit of a hoarder and doesn't sell gear :-P

We're likely going back to our landscape adventures soon, so it's not a fit for that, but in all honestly, I'm not really that particular in bokeh, and just some is good enough for me. I like the short tele's for reach more than "portraits", usually stage performances of my kids, so I still value a wide aperture lens.

I can borrow at anytime, but it's just not calling me, as I know I'de only use it at home or a few times a year. In that case, I just keep one around, and it happens to be the 135A. I've got an older Tam 70-200 f2.8 and it adapts real well on the A9, just rather have that extra stop and walk closer (I've got permission most of the time).

either way, you must know my style is transitioning to video, and I just want just enough when it comes to photography. For video, size is ultra important, especially if travel or some sort to stabilization is involved, only a few hundred grams difference can be another few hundred grams difference in stabilization gear, and it's a vicious cycle.


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Aug 04, 2019 23:27 |  #31377

This weekend our planned two day camping trip turned into a clusterf*ck which necessitated renting a car from the airport in order to make it up there. No camping, just a looooong day trip (15+ hours), a 13 mile hike with 2600 feet of climbing with a camera and two lenses on my back. Unfortunately no sd card was in the camera and my spares were in Boise due to repacking gear in the dark on Friday night.

Does not matter, it was a great hike with great views. Normally there is smoke everywhere so I was feeling happy to pull a hike off this late into the summer. Below are a few photos from my iPhone. Next week I should have some Sony photos of the Tetons.


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Aug 05, 2019 01:03 |  #31378

Recent trip to Palm Springs, scorching 120 degree weather, still had fun ;-)a


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Aug 05, 2019 06:47 |  #31379

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Recent trip to Palm Springs, scorching 120 degree weather, still had fun ;-)a

man, what a cool place! Good for you for taking the time to document that kind of stuff...my hat is off to you.


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Aug 05, 2019 06:59 |  #31380

I went out last week to try and shoot an image for a new commission...found out that at high tide, the beach I was trying to access is under 4 feet of heavy surf...LOL. So I went back out on the main road where I had seen some still water and reeds that faced due west. It was better than just driving the 75 minutes back to the hotel with nothing...


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