Truly torn. Help me!

I swapped over from Canon to a Sony A7RII about 2 and a 1/2 years ago or so. Ever since then I have loved Sony.

I am wanting to upgrade to something that does video a little bit better and I am torn. My options are as follows:
Sony a7r iV keep my 12-24mm (meh)
Sony a7r iii + 16-35mm GM
Sony a7 iii + 16-35mm GM
Also considering the zeiss 16-35mm f4
What I shoot:
"professionally" I shoot realestate photo and video mainly. I started off in portraiture but if moved to realestate for a majority of my money. I still shoot everything else and get paid to do so but my most frequent source of income would have to be realestate

I do a lot of video of all sorts including skateboarding and music videos. I also shoot a lot of photos ranging from product photography all the way up to family portraits.

My thoughts:
a7riv Will be the best of the best and comes with a hefty price tag.
A7RIII Large file sizes, which I am used to by now, that can be a pain to work with when shooting HDR and other things for realestate.
A7iii Smaller file sizes, much better all around camera. I am definitely concerned with the AA filter. I am used to very very tack sharp images from the a7r II but I am wondering if I would actually even notice a difference to be honest I do not believe I would


Normally I know exactly what I want and I am not afraid to pull the trigger but this one truly has me confused. I am seen amazing images and videos come from all of these and since I do not do crazy editorial portraiture I figured I really don't need that much data but I have grown accustomed to a certain lifestyle haha


Budget - $3500 (ish)

Would one of the newer phones be good enough to cover your professional work? I'm not trying to sound negative in any way but you aren't shooting a feature film or a commercial and maybe that would save you a bundle of cash? If a phone isn't up to snuff what about the A6400 or the A6600? Unless you shoot a lot of low light footage I would think they might work out pretty well for you.

Unfortunately a cell phone would literally never be good enough for what I do. I am shooting a few commercial style things and moving a lot more towards that. I also have to be able to shoot in log format in order to be able to color grade so I could literally never use a cell phone for what I do ha ha. My style is way too cinematic for that unfortunately. Not to mention I would not buy the new crop sensor From Sony because it seems to be the same sensors they have been using and all of that. honestly if I was shooting just video I would consider it but for photos I would never consider one of them.

Really the only cameras I am intrested in are the ones that are listed above lenses as well.

If you're not in a hurry rent all three of those cameras you mentioned. When all is said and done you will know. Personally I'd be worried with how well my computer could handle the files from the A7IV. Only way to find out is to try before you buy.

yeah I mean tbh I think the a7r IV may be out purely because I shoot a lot of HDR. I guess I can do super35mm and its like 24mp?

but yeah my computer won't be an issue.
8core i7 OC and watercooled at like 5ghz lol
While it may not be as fast its still not slow.


but yeah, I thought about renting the other two locally for a day.

Nick Aufiero wrote in post #18925859
yeah I mean tbh I think the a7r IV may be out purely because I shoot a lot of HDR. I guess I can do super35mm and its like 24mp?

but yeah my computer won't be an issue.
8core i7 OC and watercooled at like 5ghz lol
While it may not be as fast its still not slow.


but yeah, I thought about renting the other two locally for a day.

The over clocked i7 will help alot in the files. LR now will utilize some of the processing of files with the external GPU. I'm assuming you've spent a bunch on the PC so the A7r4 files shouldn't be a big issue. Management of saving the files will be another topic I suppose.

The A73 will have the cleanest files out of all of the Sony bodies. The high res bodies gets a hit in noise but I think it's been said the A7r4 has very analog film like noise.

Wait a little to see if the A7s3 arrives or not. None of the cameras have a big edge on video, just cleaner, especially low light. Operationally, there is a nice improvement. Separate custom buttons for video, and for the R4, separate fn menu.... that’s huge. No frame rate improvements make it a pass for video.

A& III.... all day long. Those extra pixels aren't going to help you that much with video. And the 7 III seems to hold on to colors better. Im not sure the extra 1500 of the IV would yield you much for what you are looking to do. Keep the 7r II if you ever get the artistic urge. It's still a rock solid performer there.

Though I am late but I would like to throw my 2 cents. If video is your objective, I don't see how A7r iii or A7 iii might help you with that (over A7r ii). While their auto focus has improved over A7r ii, they still lack the real time AF tracking in video mode that newer Sony models all include down to even A6100. A7r iv has it but if it were me, I would do it another way: I would keep the A7r ii and add an A6600 as a second body ans for when you want to do video with real time AF tracking.
You need to ask yourself yourself if your A7r ii is really limiting you in some way or the other. It's true that the newer models have quite a number of improvements. However, do those improvements make a difference for you? If you don't feel limited with your current camera, I doubt it. Even video-wise, A7r ii is as good as newer Sony models except for AF which I mentioned above. So unless you really need or want that new AF system, even for video you wouldn't need to upgrade. It may be perhaps a good idea to add a new lens that opens new possibilities or maybe some other equipment (maybe a good video tripod, lighting equipment, etc.).

Why not consider the A7S or A7SIi