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Oct 01, 2019 12:34 |  #1

This is a photo of my son I've been working on. I am not finished with it but am stopping here, as I cannot get the skin tone right. I thought before I axe it I would look for some help here. I have tried curves, selective color, color codes. I have a hard time with skin tones to start with but it seems to me the tone is too blue. When I try to compensate, the tone winds up too yellow. He is fair skinned and naturally has quite a bit of red in his cheeks. His photos seem to be the hardest for me as far as skin tone. Any input, advice would be appreciated.
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I thought I would add the original photo, if it would help

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Oct 01, 2019 14:53 |  #3

What software do you use. In Lightroom on Photoshop Camera Raw plug-in it should be fairly easy to get the temperature right and thus the skin tone as well.


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Oct 01, 2019 15:44 as a reply to  @ olafs osh's post |  #4

I use Photoshop. I will take it back into camera raw and see what I come up with...


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Oct 01, 2019 15:53 |  #5

Playing around with curves and such is going to make it much harder. Adjust the WB first, then curves as necessary.

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Oct 01, 2019 16:10 |  #6

why are the two images so vastly different except for the skin tones?

i put both images on separate layers in photoshop, knocked out a rectangle and let the other one show through. I did lighten on layer a bit, but did not alter color or saturation. You can see that the forehead color is pretty much exactly the same. The other areas are extremely close from a chroma pov ... just a tad more cyan i think.

the biggest difference is less contrast and a tad less saturation in the cut out area.

I also wonder why you think the original isn't working? Looks spot on to me.


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Oct 01, 2019 16:20 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #7

I have the cards and they were even in my coat pocket. My son is so not interested in having his photos taken, this was a rare opportunity. I forgot about the cards all together, in my haste to get his photos taken before he got bored (which didn't take long for him to do).


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Oct 01, 2019 16:28 as a reply to  @ Left Handed Brisket's post |  #8

Thank you for taking the time...I can see that they are very close. So as I was editing, I would remove from his face with each pretty much each layer. If I wouldn't have done that, I feel that the blues and other layers that I added would have muddied his skin tone to quite an extent. I went into camera raw as Olafs suggested. The white balance changed it ever so slightly and I pulled up contrast a tiny bit. I'm happy with it now. I know too that sometimes you need to walk away and come back later to get a good take on your edit.


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Oct 02, 2019 07:10 |  #9

Allow me to digress.... but what look are you trying to achieve? The image you processed is very subtle and neutral. Was that a look you were trying to achieve? Or do you want to go with the bold colors look. There is no right answer here...


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Oct 02, 2019 07:49 |  #10

Do you need to change the colors much? You know what he looks like so we are at a disadvantage here.

I didn't change colors, I did add contrast and smart sharpening to pop it a bit, but as to coloration, I won't even hazard a guess without some sort of gray reference in the image.


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Oct 02, 2019 08:52 as a reply to  @ Croasdail's post |  #11

With portraits, the more I do them, the more seem to lean towards subtle. I like to do pop with photos of animals, particularly my birds. I pulled up a tiny bit of contrast in camera raw and white balance changed it an ever so subtle amount.


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Oct 02, 2019 08:54 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #12

It wasn't the colours so much as contrast. As well, a tiny color change. Changing the white balance also brightened him slightly so I was happy with the final look.


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Oct 02, 2019 11:00 as a reply to  @ Kristine2514's post |  #13

Often, rather than using contrast, bumping the black point will give back a contrast pop without causing a shift in highlights and quarter tones.

Honestly, it is exceedingly rare that I use the contrast slider.


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Oct 02, 2019 11:13 |  #14

I use USM to manage contrast, I never use the contrast or brightness sliders. I think there probably are like 5+ ways to do contrast changes better than the actual contrast slider that image editing tools give us. :)


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Oct 02, 2019 12:06 |  #15

Thank you both for your inputs. You are right...I've learned that contrast is a bit of a dicey slider. I rarely use it too...especially with portraits as it trashes skin. In this case though, it added just what I was looking for....ever so slight.


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