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RIP B-17 Nine O Nine?

 
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Oct 02, 2019 10:31 |  #1

A vintage World War II plane crashed and erupted into flames on Wednesday morning at Bradley International Airport, just outside of Hartford, Connecticut, authorities said.

"We can confirm that there was an accident involving a Collings Foundation World War II aircraft this morning at Bradley Airport," according to an airport statement.

https://www.nbcnews.co​m …national-airport-n1061161 (external link)


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Oct 02, 2019 11:10 |  #2

That's the only B-17 Collings takes on the tour.

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Oct 02, 2019 11:22 |  #3

Very sad news, indeed.


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Oct 02, 2019 12:36 |  #4

Damn. 13 people on board. No word yet on details but reports saying there are fatalities. :(


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Oct 02, 2019 13:09 |  #5

Very sad :cry:


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Oct 03, 2019 10:43 |  #6

Reports are that engine 4 failed at 800 feet. She tried to come back around but didn't make it. I hate the loss of life, and the loss of a historic aircraft. While she never saw action in europe, she still took part in some important events in our history... she survived 3 nuclear bomb tests.

For the 7 families, really sorry for their loss... most tragic




  
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Oct 13, 2019 02:37 |  #7

Mike, that's a very attractive photo. Really nice with the flag.

Such sad news. And just last April the Northrop flying wing was completely destroyed in a crash, pilot lost his life.

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Mar 27, 2020 18:33 |  #8

Source: https://www.avweb.com …-+Friday+March+27%2C+20​20 (external link)

This sounds bad- shoddy maintenance. The link above has much more- poor training, other maintenance issues than those listed below.

...FAA’s initial findings found significant maintenance issues with two of the engines. “Inspection of the engines on the B-17G … established magneto and ignition failures existed. Regarding engine 4, to prevent the magneto P-leads from separating from the magnetos, someone had attempted to rig the magneto leads in place with safety wire. Inspection and testing of engine 4 left magneto revealed the movement of the safety-wired lead caused grounding to the case, which rendered the magneto lead inoperative. In addition, the right magneto of engine 4 was found unserviceable. The cam follower was worn beyond limits and the point gap was less than half the measurement required by service documents. When tested, the magneto produced weak or no spark to four of the nine cylinders. All spark plugs were inspected and required cleaning and all electrode gaps were out of tolerance,”...

FAA’s initial findings found significant maintenance issues with two of the engines. “Inspection of the engines on the B-17G … established magneto and ignition failures existed. Regarding engine 4, to prevent the magneto P-leads from separating from the magnetos, someone had attempted to rig the magneto leads in place with safety wire. Inspection and testing of engine 4 left magneto revealed the movement of the safety-wired lead caused grounding to the case, which rendered the magneto lead inoperative. In addition, the right magneto of engine 4 was found unserviceable. The cam follower was worn beyond limits and the point gap was less than half the measurement required by service documents. When tested, the magneto produced weak or no spark to four of the nine cylinders. All spark plugs were inspected and required cleaning and all electrode gaps were out of tolerance,”




  
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Mar 27, 2020 19:10 |  #9

Sad news, indeed. However, I would have hoped that she would have been capable of limping back on 3 engines. The expression "on a wing and a prayer." I wonder if pilot inexperience played into it.


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Mar 28, 2020 15:14 |  #10

Scrumhalf wrote in post #19034810 (external link)
Sad news, indeed. However, I would have hoped that she would have been capable of limping back on 3 engines. The expression "on a wing and a prayer." I wonder if pilot inexperience played into it.


there were issues with more than just #4 but at low altitude and low airspeed, its VERY hazardous to try and maneuver an airplane...

and i think the pilot had several thousand hours




  
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Mar 28, 2020 15:39 |  #11

The initial investigation revealed that the number 3 engine also had fouled spark plugs, with gaps out of tolerance. Signs of detonation were found in both engines. “As a result of these findings and other information, the FAA questions whether the engines were inspected adequately and in accordance with the applicable maintenance requirements,” the FAA said.




  
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