Windows 10 Not good at all

Is it only me that has found so far - the whole experiance with windows 10 - no good - Its slow confusing leaves very littile user control.
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When I was using windows 7 it took me all of a couple of hours to get it all up and running from a new clean laptop - with 10 I have been on it for most of the day and still it is causing me problems and I Hate the photo storing room its crap {bring back windows 7 in so many departments]


Windows photo viewer was there waiting un complicarted even showed the RAW thumbnails (not the pics of course) but with 10 all my RAWS have vanished despite them being downloaded.

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If you're referring to the modern/tile/tablet app called "Photos", I don't use that for anything other than viewing individual photos I've double clicked on in File Explorer. File Explorer works as it has for years.

mike_d wrote in post #18938714
If you're referring to the modern/tile/tablet app called "Photos", I don't use that for anything other than viewing individual photos I've double clicked on in File Explorer. File Explorer works as it has for years.

I cant get my RAW file to be filed anywhere in win110 in win 7 thye just went into the same folder as anything else picture related - another words if I put my mem card into my win 7 laptop it would place all files into the same dated photo files in windows regardless if they are RAW - Tff or Jpeg.

In win 10 i just cant simply locate the RAW files even though they have been down loaded.

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I want Windows Photo Viewer same as was in windows 7.


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Windows 7 was very easy and simple to adjust - how can I get the same in win 10.

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I imagine the number of people shooting raw and using Windows Photos to import their photos is pretty small. I use Lightroom to import and manage my photos. Perhaps you need to look into a 3rd party solution or simply copy your images to the hard disk manually without relying on a Microsoft wizard to do it.

mike_d wrote in post #18938728
I imagine number of people shooting raw and using Windows Photos to import their photos is pretty small. I use Lightroom to import and manage my photos. Perhaps you need to look into a 3rd party solution or simply copy your images to the hard disk manually without relying on a Microsoft wizard to do it.

I have LR7 but it is not compatable with D7200 so I have to convert to to tiff for tbe them always been so.


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For years now I have manually copied my raw files off my memory cards. First I make a home for them on my computer's hard drive. The 'home' is a folder where I want them, with a name that I want. Then using Windows 10 file explorer I find the files on the memory card and drag or copy them over. Doing it that way gets me a file structure exactly the way I want, and I know where everything is.

After that you can do your manipulations - converting them to TIFF or importing into LR or whatever other software.

I changed to Win 10 a few years ago - actually Microsoft forced it on me to my chagrin - but I found there wasn't that much difference from Win 7. Of course I customized a bit, the most important parts being turning off all the privacy options, avoiding Cortana, and installing Classic Shell to serve as my Start Menu. The OS has mostly stayed out of the way other than for a couple of rude updates. It has been OK.

Pag, I suggest you proceed carefully a step at a time, making sure you understand each step and each is to your satisfaction before going on to the next. I'm pretty sure the dust will settle for you and the computer will behave itself.

BTW, I never use Windows Photos and generally avoid Windows packaged software!

Archibald wrote in post #18938743
For years now I have manually copied my raw files off my memory cards. First I make a home for them on my computer's hard drive. The 'home' is a folder where I want them, with a name that I want. Then using Windows 10 file explorer I find the files on the memory card and drag or copy them over. Doing it that way gets me a file structure exactly the way I want, and I know where everything is.

After that you can do your manipulations - converting them to TIFF or importing into LR or whatever other software.

I changed to Win 10 a few years ago - actually Microsoft forced it on me to my chagrin - but I found there wasn't that much difference from Win 7. Of course I customized a bit, the most important parts being turning off all the privacy options, avoiding Cortana, and installing Classic Shell to serve as my Start Menu. The OS has mostly stayed out of the way other than for a couple of rude updates. It has been OK.

Pag, I suggest you proceed carefully a step at a time, making sure you understand each step and each is to your satisfaction before going on to the next. I'm pretty sure the dust will settle for you and the computer will behave itself.

BTW, I never use Windows Photos and generally avoid Windows packaged software!

This,be the master,I've always viewed windows of any variant as a host for sofware of my choice and as such never had a problem adjusting from one version to another,win 10 is the best so far for stability in my view.
The first thing I do with any computer is the partition the hard drive,system on one and all my files photos etc on the other in my own folder structure,I know where everthing is and it's safe if windows does turn it's toes up.

Archibald wrote in post #18938743
For years now I have manually copied my raw files off my memory cards. First I make a home for them on my computer's hard drive. The 'home' is a folder where I want them, with a name that I want. Then using Windows 10 file explorer I find the files on the memory card and drag or copy them over. Doing it that way gets me a file structure exactly the way I want, and I know where everything is.

BTW, I never use Windows Photos and generally avoid Windows packaged software!

Same here. My move from Win7 to Win10 was quite painless - mainly because I am in control of the relevant things for me. Noting in 'my photos' or 'my documents', but in separate dedicated folder structures that I am maintaining since >10 years over several OS migrations. As little use of pre-installed software as possible. This is the only way to avoid this constant 'how to appeal to the lowest denominator' and 'let's upgrade but actually just shifting some buttons and colors' software race.

I told you in another thread that you had to have Windows 10 1903 version to allow the Windows 10 RAW extension, to be downloaded https://www.microsoft.​com …ge-extension/9nctdw2w1bh8 to work. I also provided instructions on how to see if you had Win 10 1903. Have you done any of that? [Edit] For now do not download or install the previously mentioned extension. Based on some content you've provided elsewhere, you are now running version 1903 and shooting with a Nikon 7200. Go to my reply, #14 below to see some instructions for viewing RAW images from Nikon cameras in Wndows 10.

In checking my own installation of Windows 10 1903 I find I do not need the extension to view my 60D and 80D RAW files as icons and they open without any problems, but the default program that opens them in File Explorer is the WIn 10 default Photos application. That can be changed if desired.

Windows 10 has also changed the name of some shortcuts, folders, etc. from what you may be used to. You likely are not seeing for instance a shortcut called "My Pictures" but with some searching you should find a folder just named "Pictures". Usually the path will be something like C:\Users\SomeUser\Pictures where "SomeUser" is something unique to the specific user. If you expand your "C" drive hierarchy, you will see a folder named "Users". Expand the "Users" folder and you should see things like "All Users", "Default", "Default User", "Public", maybe a few more, and one folder which is your unique folder. Click on that and you will see your specific items, setup related items, etc. This "Users" structure is why several people can use the same PC and each can have security unique to their use. You can also find the folder by using the box in the lower left corner labeled "Type here to search". Simply type in "Pictures" and you should see an entry named "File folder in" and that is likely where your pictures are kept.

You do not want Windows 7. Right now it is a security nightmare and only getting worse as time goes on. It is possible to get the Windows 7 "Windows Photo Viewer" back in Windows 10 if that is what you want. To do that however requires you to move a least one file from a Win 7 machine onto the new PC and then requires a registry hack. With the issues you are having, and your apparent knowledge level (no offense intended), this would not be recommended.

I liked 7 a lot, I like 10 significantly more. I find it cleaner, quicker, etc. Now to be fair I don't use it for the apps it brings with it for the most part, just as an operating system. My photo computer is also relatively free of applications beyond what I need for editing. No office, etc.

John from PA wrote in post #18938848
I told you in another thread that you had to have Windows 10 1903 version to allow the Windows 10 RAW extension, to be downloaded https://www.microsoft.​com …ge-extension/9nctdw2w1bh8 to work. I also provided instructions on how to see if you had Win 10 1903. Have you done any of that?

In checking my own installation of Windows 10 1903 I find I do not need the extension to view my 60D and 80D RAW files as icons and they open without any problems, but the default program that opens them in File Explorer is the WIn 10 default Photos application. That can be changed if desired.

I'm on 1809. File Explorer displays thumbnails and Photos opens the raw files from my 5D3 and GH-3. Maybe no extension is needed because these cameras are both old?

Pagman wrote in post #18938729
I have LR7 but it is not compatable with D7200 so I have to convert to to tiff for tbe them always been so.

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If you continue to have issues, you might want to download and install the Nikon codec that allows directly viewing the RAW images created by the D7200. See https://downloadcenter​.nikonimglib.com/en/do​wnload/sw/97.html for the download and instructions on how to install.

crofter wrote in post #18938745
This,be the master,I've always viewed windows of any variant as a host for sofware of my choice and as such never had a problem adjusting from one version to another,win 10 is the best so far for stability in my view.

Agreed. Windows' job is to interface with the hardware, manage the files, look after connectivity and so on, and support the software of others. That's it! MS keeps on trying to sell new Windows features, and I just don't care.

I also agree about Win10 being stable. Do you remember the Win 95 days? You had to save your work every 10 minutes, and usually had to reboot a couple times a day after crashes. No more with Win10.

My Windows and all the programs are on an SSD. I use a 4TB external hard drive for photos and all other data files. That external drive regularly gets backed up to other 4TB external drives in rotation. My files are safe and organized (more or less, LOL).

So my photo files and other files I create never go to the "Documents" folder where Microsoft wants them by default.