Windows 10 Not good at all

Archibald wrote in post #18938977
I also agree about Win10 being stable. Do you remember the Win 95 days? You had to save your work every 10 minutes, and usually had to reboot a couple times a day after crashes. No more with Win10.

Win9x was awful. I remember doing preemptive reboots when I knew I was going to do something that really needed to proceed uninterrupted. I've seen Win98 blue screen by opening the printers folder.

WinNT largely fixed Windows stability issues 30 years ago, but most consumers weren't using the NT kernel until WinXP. I switched to NT4 in about 1997 because I was sick on 95 crashing. Vista added the nice trick of allowing the system to continue after a display driver crash. Previous versions of Windows would have blue screened. Since then, all versions of Windows have been equally stable.

mike_d wrote in post #18938985
Win9x was awful. I remember doing preemptive reboots when I knew I was going to do something that really needed to proceed uninterrupted. I've seen Win98 blue screen by opening the printers folder.

WinNT largely fixed Windows stability issues 30 years ago, but most consumers weren't using the NT kernel until WinXP. I switched to NT4 in about 1997 because I was sick on 95 crashing. Vista added the nice trick of allowing the system to continue after a display driver crash. Previous versions of Windows would have blue screened. Since then, all versions of Windows have been equally stable.

I still have an xp machine running at the office because it contains some software I wrote over a decade ago.

XP was pretty decent overall. It was a good while before I went to 7. Reisted all the iterations between 7 and 10. I played around with 10 on someone’s laptop and liked what I saw for the most part.

All my systems run 10 except for the XP machine now?

jcothron wrote in post #18939079
I still have an xp machine running at the office because it contains some software I wrote over a decade ago.

XP was pretty decent overall. It was a good while before I went to 7. Reisted all the iterations between 7 and 10. I played around with 10 on someone’s laptop and liked what I saw for the most part.

All my systems run 10 except for the XP machine now?

I've run every version since NT4 Workstation except for Win8. I just couldn't bring myself to "upgrade" from Win7. I've been on Win10 since the first official version and been generally happy. My biggest complain are the forced upgrades every 6 months unless you have the technical means to avoid them. I don't like playing Russian roulette with my PC.

mike_d wrote in post #18939098
I've been on Win10 since the first official version and been generally happy. My biggest complain are the forced upgrades every 6 months unless you have the technical means to avoid them. I don't like playing Russian roulette with my PC.

There is a delay update setting that you can utilize to wait out all the bug corrections. As best I can recall in Windows 10 1803 (unfortunately I can’t test) you can delay the installation for 35 days and in the 1903 version up to a year.

John from PA wrote in post #18939104
There is a delay update setting that you can utilize to wait out all the bug corrections. As best I can recall in Windows 10 1803 (unfortunately I can’t test) you can delay the installation for 35 days and in the 1903 version up to a year.

Yeah, they've slowly been adding more options to delay the forced upgrades, but many of them only apply to Pro. I'd still prefer it to be like the old days where Windows didn't upgrade unless you explicitly did it. Most people never upgraded Windows and just stayed with what they had until they purchased a new PC. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.

mike_d wrote in post #18939122
Yeah, they've slowly been adding more options to delay the forced upgrades, but many of them only apply to Pro. I'd still prefer it to be like the old days where Windows didn't upgrade unless you explicitly did it. Most people never upgraded Windows and just stayed with what they had until they purchased a new PC. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.

Mike, Microsoft changed the policy with respect to Windows 10 Home, roughly mid-summer. If you open the Settings app and select Update & Security > Windows Update (the same place download new updates) you'll also find a "Pause updates for 7 days" button. Click that button 5 repetitions (the max) and you can delay automatic updates for 35 days. Better than nothing.

More importantly, the expiration dates for version 1809, both Home and Pro (April 2019) are now May 12, 2020. You can upgrade to the 1903 version by forcing the upgrade, just make sure you don’t select the “clean” install option as it wipes everything out.

I have been fiddling all day and now have my RAWS showing and opening in Pictures also managed to download some music files MP3 and WAV and have them stored in Groove Music player - Good audio I must say.

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Pagman wrote in post #18939166
I have been fiddling all day and now have my RAWS showing and opening in Pictures also managed to download some music files MP3 and WAV and have them stored in Groove Music player - Good audio I must say.

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Sounds like progress!

Progress indeed. Here two alternatives to Groove and Photos that I switched to after trying them and beeing disappointed:
* AIMP: A good and solid player - freeware, but you might be uneasy about the Russian origin
* Faststone: Very solid and picture viewer with many more useful features then 'Photos' (except face recognition).

mike_d wrote in post #18939122
Most people never upgraded Windows and just stayed with what they had until they purchased a new PC. Don't fix it if it ain't broken.

Except that it was broken. There were fundamental flaws/vulnerabilities that needed patching. By so many people failing to update it allowed large numbers of PCs to be infected/hijacked and used for botnets etc to distribute spam, conduct DDOS attacks etc etc.

What does “broken” mean? Every version of Windows has had some issue, and I’m talking as far back as Windows 3.1. Even now, with Windows 10 version 1903, there are issues for some users. More importantly, once recognized Microsoft has stepped up to the plate and provided patches for specific problems. I personally haven’t written any code for close to 30 years, but I can tell you it is a daunting task!

Just doing my Tiff files in LR5.7 its been a bit slow when I swapped everything over from win 7 to 10 on this new laptop, I noticed that in the specs section in the help menu shows operating system - Operating system: Windows 8.1 Home Premium Edition

But in this Im running win 10 home latest edition.

Does it matter?

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Pagman wrote in post #18939749
Just doing my Tiff files in LR5.7 its been a bit slow when I swapped everything over from win 7 to 10 on this new laptop, I noticed that in the specs section in the help menu shows operating system - Operating system: Windows 8.1 Home Premium Edition

But in this Im running win 10 home latest edition.

Does it matter?

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For whatever it is worth I took a laptop and "upgraded" to Windows 10. THAT was a terrible experience. I took the same laptop, completely cleaned the hard drive and installed Windows 10... MUCH better.

Dan Marchant wrote in post #18939731
Except that it was broken. There were fundamental flaws/vulnerabilities that needed patching. By so many people failing to update it allowed large numbers of PCs to be infected/hijacked and used for botnets etc to distribute spam, conduct DDOS attacks etc etc.

I'm not talking about monthly security updates. I'm talking about having a whole new version of Win10 forced on people as an in-place upgrade every 6 months. Can anyone honestly say there's much substantive difference between Win10 1903 and 1511? Enough to justify the risk of upgrading constantly?

John from PA wrote in post #18939748
What does “broken” mean? Every version of Windows has had some issue, and I’m talking as far back as Windows 3.1. Even now, with Windows 10 version 1903, there are issues for some users. More importantly, once recognized Microsoft has stepped up to the plate and provided patches for specific problems. I personally haven’t written any code for close to 30 years, but I can tell you it is a daunting task!

Its great that that they fix stuff, but that's little help when its your computer that won't boot on a Tuesday morning because Microsoft decided you needed a whole new version of Windows last night. For the record, I use, like, and recommend Win10. It DO NOT like them pretending my PC is a simple mobile device that needs a new OS build all the time.