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Canon EF 100mm f2.8 Macro vs EF-M 28mm Macro

 
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Jul 11, 2019 02:39 |  #1

Hi All,

I've recently purchased an M50, and am in the process of selling off various EF bodies and lenses whilst keeping some of my existing lenses. I'll probably sell my Sigma 10-20 in favour of the M equivalent, for example, purely on the basis of size savings, whereas my EF 28mm 1.8 will probably always remain as my main lens for most things.

The one I'm really struggling with, though, is getting my head round the value proposition of the 28mm Macros lens. I currently have an EF 100mm f2.8 lens and MR-14 ring flash. This has let me get some really great shots of insects, and especially when my kids were a bit younger, it meant we could go on a really good fun safari together, discovering all sorts of fascinating mini-beasts in pretty much any bit of open ground. I could, of course, use it with the M50, but the combined lens and ring flash are about 4 times the size of the camera body, so it's certainly not something I can just pop in a jacket pocket on the off-hand that I might see something interesting.

The M lens has all the benefits of size going for it, and I'm interested by the notion of having lights built in to the lens itself, but I'm perplexed by the focal length! Unless I cover flowers in superglue and wait for insects to land (which I don't, before I get accused of animal cruelty! :-) ) it's often enough of a challenge to get close enough for really good shots with the 100mm lens, so how do people handle getting up close enough with the 28mm lens?




  
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Jul 11, 2019 17:05 |  #2

Little bump for the evening! Has nobody got experience of the EF-M 28m macro?




  
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Jul 13, 2019 12:41 |  #3

I don't think the EF-M 28mm Macro ever was a popular lens, principally for the reason you're implying: its actual macro uses are rather limited by its short focal length.

To be honest, I'm not sure I understand the "issue" you're raising though... I'm not sure if anybody can carry an M50 with a lens in jacket pockets to begin with, and any carrying solution you would have had with your 450D+100 Macro would be just as efficient now as it was before... no?


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Jul 14, 2019 11:51 as a reply to  @ Apricane's post |  #4

I think you're missing one key point, at least in theory! :-)

The 28mm macro has built in LED lighting in the front of the lens, so if it all worked well, then the benefit wouldn't just be saving on the lens size (61x45mm & 130g vs 79x119mm & 600g), I'd also be able to leave behind 500g on doing flash, which is as big as both lenses or together!

Add on the size and weight difference between the M50 and the 7D (or even taking the compromise on the 450D image quality) and - if it actually worked, then I absolutely could carry the M50 & lens in a coat pocket on a walk, where I'd have no chance with the previous setup.

As it is, however, whilst the M macro sounds great in theory, in practice it looks like unless they bring out a longer focal length version with built in lighting, I'll be sticking with my existing lens and flash on the new body with an adapter.




  
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Jul 15, 2019 18:42 |  #5

Right, I hadn't gotten that point. For the time being, it does seem like you're out of luck with the 28mm Macro. Don't know if Canon would come with a long macro lens with equipped lighting on it... seems very specialized and against the usual kind of photographers they market the cameras to.


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Jul 17, 2019 19:35 |  #6

When the EF-M 28mm Macro was first introduced, it was targeted towards people taking photos for product photography, not insects.




  
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Oct 08, 2019 12:46 |  #7

I'm probably a bit late to the party ...but, like you, I own both the EF-M 28mm f/3.5 IS Macro STM lens as well as the EF 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro USM lens plus the MR-14 Ring Flash (the Ring Flash never seemed to generate the best results for me and was a bit tricky to use on many occasions)

Wide Macro lenses are considered a bit of a specialty lens since traditionally Macro Lenses tend to have longer focal lengths of at least 60mm to 100mm. But the wider focal length means this lens can be carried and used as a walkabout lens and you can stitch multiple shots together to form panoramas if needed - without a great deal of effort since 28mm = 45mm when you add the 1.61x crop factor to the equation.

I REALLY like the results from the 28mm Macro lens and there are times when it has been easier to clip my camera + 28mm lens to my belt for the day than to walk around with both hands holding the longer 100mm Macro. The LED Ring-Light on the 28mm Macro lens is a handy addition. I've also been experimenting with a Manfrotto Lumimuse8 light that uses a coldshoe with an internal lithium rechargeable battery and colored gel for additional illumination (eg see frog image which I took last week)

The lens is easier to use without a tripod due to the wider focal length compared to the 100mm Macro lens. The front edge of the lens is also beveled to allow you to rest it on a surface without casting shadow over the subject. It comes with a filter mount that is made of metal but will block the LED lights if you mount it so I usually recommend just using it for CPL shots. This is a very useful lens and is extremely compact.

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Let me know if you need any more samples from this lens as I have plenty more.



  
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I think that Ebay and Product photographers prefer this 28mm Macro lens over the 100mmL Macro lens because they can set themselves up in a much smaller area. The minimum focus distance is greatly reduced compared to the need for much more space with the 100mmL. Of course, the wider field of view means that the image may have more curvature to the scene compared to the flatter field of the 100mmL's longer focal distance.



  
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Just for reference, the top image shows the texture of a Strawberry.
The one below it was an Ivory antique that was taken though a shop window at night.



  
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