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Oct 21, 2019 02:37 |  #3241

Handheld G9, five shots one stop apart, merged in SNS.

One of my favourite views of the walk where I take my dog.

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This one probably didn't need bracketing :-)

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Oct 23, 2019 12:06 |  #3242

The Lake of Menteith and the Menteith Hills, with Ben Lomond in the background. (-1 EV & +1 EV, merged in ACR)

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Oct 23, 2019 13:15 |  #3243

Lovely shot, Col - but -2 and +2 might have give a better rendering.


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Oct 23, 2019 13:30 |  #3244

Stiga wrote in post #18949259 (external link)
Lovely shot, Col - but -2 and +2 might have give a better rendering.

For sure - it is always a problem for me because I am trying to fish, and trying to keep an eye out for a shot at the same time. I keep the camera on -1, 0 and +1 'set of 3' as a default and then worry about which to pick... or whether I can make an HDR out of them when I get home. As I do more and more of these HDR merges (since ACR became so good at them), I maybe need to be more bold and set the default to -2, 0 and +2?

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Oct 23, 2019 13:40 |  #3245

Capn Fishy wrote in post #18949265 (external link)
=Cap'n Fishy;18949265]For sure - it is always a problem for me because I am trying to fish, and trying to keep an eye out for a shot at the same time. I keep the camera on -1, 0 and +1 'set of 3' as a default and then worry about which to pick... or whether I can make an HDR out of them when I get home. As I do more and more of these HDR merges (since ACR became so good at them), I maybe need to be more bold and set the default to -2, 0 and +2?

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Yes, that's a good idea! Remember that a single RAW spans about 4 EVs


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Oct 23, 2019 14:31 |  #3246

Stiga wrote in post #18949271 (external link)
Yes, that's a good idea! Remember that a single RAW spans about 4 EVs

The problem then is that a lot of my single shot picks are the +1 EV shots. They make up a lot more of my bread and butter shots than the 0 EV shots do these days... partly the whole ETTR thing, and partly because I have always found that Canon cameras tend to underexpose a bit...

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Oct 23, 2019 18:39 |  #3247

Capn Fishy wrote in post #18949303 (external link)
=Cap'n Fishy;18949303]The problem then is that a lot of my single shot picks are the +1 EV shots. They make up a lot more of my bread and butter shots than the 0 EV shots do these days... partly the whole ETTR thing, and partly because I have always found that Canon cameras tend to underexpose a bit...

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For all of my 5D Mark X cameras, I could reliably expose optimally for the raw file by spot metering the brightest highlight in which I wanted to maintain detail and then add three stops to that value. In daylight, like this shot, it would work 99% of the time, and the whitest clouds were usually a pretty reliable metering point. The shot you posted would likely have been captured sufficiently with the 5DIV in a single exposure.

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Oct 24, 2019 03:30 |  #3248

Stiga wrote in post #18949259 (external link)
Lovely shot, Col - but -2 and +2 might have give a better rendering.

Just a question. -2 and + 2 because the dynamic is so great?

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Oct 24, 2019 06:16 |  #3249

roseyposey wrote in post #18949584 (external link)
Just a question. -2 and + 2 because the dynamic is so great?

Thanks

I take it all back now I have had a close look in Photoshop. What I thought were blacks are not! It's fine as it is :-)


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Oct 24, 2019 06:32 |  #3250

Stiga wrote in post #18949643 (external link)
I take it all back now I have had a close look in Photoshop. What I thought were blacks are not! It's fine as it is :-)

Ok - so I guess the question is - if it seems the dynamic range is hgue then bracket 2 * 2. I suppose since my current camera can do 7 shots that I can maybe allow for that.


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Oct 24, 2019 07:11 |  #3251

roseyposey wrote in post #18949654 (external link)
Ok - so I guess the question is - if it seems the dynamic range is hgue then bracket 2 * 2. I suppose since my current camera can do 7 shots that I can maybe allow for that.

One of the reasons I have been tending to go with 2 frames, at +1 and -1 EV, rather than use 3 shots, at 0, +1 and -1 EV, is that I was finding that if I gave all 3 shots to ACR, it would get a bit lazy and use mostly the 0 EV data. I have been finding I get better results by leaving the 0 EV frame out.

Going back to the +/-2 EV option, I'm thinking it's going to get less natural-looking, the wider the DR span... and this is the Natural-Looking HDR thread, after all...  :p

But I will give it a try out of interest.

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Oct 24, 2019 08:49 |  #3252

Stiga wrote in post #18949643 (external link)
I take it all back now I have had a close look in Photoshop. What I thought were blacks are not! It's fine as it is :-)

Aye - you can check the histogram in the bottom right corner. No clipping on either end. Some very dark green conifers in the shade, though. ;-)a

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Oct 24, 2019 13:16 |  #3253

Further to the above, I did a bit of experimentation this afternoon. Apologies for the less than award-winning shots - just grabs for the purpose... though I did manage to get some usefully awkward lighting by facing into a lowering sun.

Three shots with +1/-1 EV merges, v the same shots with +2/-2 EV merges. Not scientific, 'like for like' renderings, but my own preferences one-by-one, as it's what I would always do anyway, so thought it was the most appropriate way to go about it...

-1/+1...

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-2/+2...
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-1/+1...
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-2/+2
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-1/+1
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-2/+2
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Oct 25, 2019 02:35 |  #3254

Capn Fishy wrote in post #18949829 (external link)
=Cap'n Fishy;18949829]Further to the above, I did a bit of experimentation this afternoon. Apologies for the less than award-winning shots - just grabs for the purpose... though I did manage to get some usefully awkward lighting by facing into a lowering sun.

Three shots with +1/-1 EV merges, v the same shots with +2/-2 EV merges. Not scientific, 'like for like' renderings, but my own preferences one-by-one, as it's what I would always do anyway, so thought it was the most appropriate way to go about it...

-1/+1...
QUOTED IMAGE

-2/+2...
QUOTED IMAGE

-1/+1...
QUOTED IMAGE

-2/+2
QUOTED IMAGE

-1/+1


-2/+2


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Amazing garden!!

Is it my imagination, but more colour in + - 1?


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Oct 25, 2019 12:29 |  #3255

roseyposey wrote in post #18950095 (external link)
Amazing garden!!

Is it my imagination, but more colour in + - 1?

It's not one garden, but many. A system called allotments, whereby folk with no garden of their own can lease a plot on a patch of land given over to cultivation.

https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Allotment_(gar​dening (external link))

I see where you are coming from with the colours. I did all 6 processings deliberately 'free-hand', so whatever you get is serendipity. I have no idea if my input tended to put more colour into the +1/-1 pairs? I can see a bit more detail in the skies of the +2/-2 pairs though.

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