Adobe: Forcing everybody into the cloud and messing up? (venting)

I am not a fan of this forced shift of 'software sevices' into the cloud. Especially if there is no real added benefit and if it just smells like a big money grab. And in this respect, Adobe is probably the worst of the bunch. Not just forcing everybody, but also behaving poorly - giving ample of reasons to mistrust this cloud stuff:
If they don't like you then they simply turn off the 'service': https://www.theverge.c​om …shop-behance-us-sanctions. Now politics decide, if you can use software or not. POLITICS! The only reliability you get there is its reliable inconsistency. Who's next in this random theater. (I know, this is only relevant for us non-Americans....)
Additionally, they don't even get their core business properly under control: https://threatpost.com …s-exposed-hackers/149563/. Not a big deal - but does not instill the confidence that Adobe cares too much about privacy and protecting their clients from harm.

And now they are also forcing me to rent Acrobat as a cloud subscription! WHY? There is absolutely no *beeping* reason why Acrobat has to have anything to do with the cloud or why it should have any sorts of access to the internet.

I am quite peeved that I don't have the time to research how to restructure my workflow for pdfs right now - but Adobe is definitely on my 'not cool' list of things to avoid. Anybody has an alternative mature pdf workflow solution that covers similar functionality such as Acrobat? (edit, OCR, ...). Sometimes feel like the red queen - having to adopt my software as fast as I can just to keep the same functionality running. I can not be the only one out there, am I?

I am still using CS5 and will until it no longer works for me. I refuse to do the Adobe cloud thing.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18950633
I am still using CS5 and will until it no longer works for me. I refuse to do the Adobe cloud thing.

CS4 for me. Does everything I need (and more) without being tethered to Adobe servers for every click.

still using CS3 here...

Not to excuse Adobe's errors, but they are trying to increase revenue stream to one which is more regular, and not necessarily based upon the old 'pay-when-upgrade' model. The cash grab is nicer for them when every month all their customers are paying. This has been an issue for 'software companies' for a number of decades. Adobe fails to understand that some user are pros, but many others are hobbyists, but they choose to have only a single pricing model for all users...even the 'student discount' gives a price break only if you license most ALL of their programs, whether you even intend to use them or not.

They have tried some pretty hare-brained things in the past (and then more hare-brained things later, ad infinitum). So go and vent, and rest assured that Adobe will continue to do many more hare-brained things.

They continue to drive many loyal customers in search of something else to use, not Adobe branded. They failed to adhere to the business school axiom, "Find new customers, and KEEP THEM!". Instead it seems to be, for them, "Extract more dollars from fewer customers". That seems to be working for them!

I recently got my own account after sharing with my son. I don't use the cloud services, and store all my images on my own equipment. I just did this about a week ago and don't recall having to sign up for cloud rental unless I wanted to.

goalerjones wrote in post #18951496
I just did this about a week ago and don't recall having to sign up for cloud rental unless I wanted to.

Yeah sorry, this wasn't very precise by me. I am not talking about storage - but more about a 'software as a service' thing. You rent software and don't buy it anymore. This makes sense for many applications (e.g. map&navigation, AI-supported translation, speak recognition -- accidentally all of them currently free services), but not for editing software.... In addition, they switching from a machine based license to a personal license. Now, you are not allowed have all the adobe software on machine used by several people and have one machine based license - which is really neat for people only need access from time to time....Not possible anymore. Now things get personal = everybody needs to rent...

And yes, there is not really a point in my ranting. Just grumpy that I have to spend all the time and effort to switch things around for no good reason and no benefit at all!

john crossley wrote in post #18951535
If you are running a business then you would buy a business license for the appropriate number of users.

That's the point: The old license was per machine. You could install the software on one machine and anybody with access to the machine could use the software. Now the license is per user. You don't want to spend money per user if they only use the software rarely. Again, not a big deal (I'll find a way) - but again we have to spend time and effort to make changes to keep things as they were.

This is not what I was told: "Adobe has switched its Creative Cloud products license from device-based (per installation) to name-based (one personal license per person)." - You might have a different license regime. This is what I have.

john crossley wrote in post #18951548
I have a personal CC license, and anybody who has access to my computer will also be able to use my creative cloud apps. Please explain why you think they won't.

Again: I don't know what your personal license allows and not. I am complaining about my situation and there Adobe is switching their license model. For businesses they retired their serial number and device licensing (now called legacy) and switched to user licensing.

john crossley wrote in post #18951573
If on the other hand you only had Adobe CC installed on ONE computer, then you would only need a ONE person Adobe CC account. All 10 employees would still be able to access the creative cloud apps, it just wouldn’t be in their own name. THINK ABOUT IT.

Not allowed anymore: https://helpx.adobe.co​m …rise/using/lice​nsing.html