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The Basketball Thread!!! From Pee-Wee Leagues to the NBA... Post'em up and share!!!

 
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May 14, 2019 13:45 |  #556

It's a GLOBAL game!!!

Last regular season home game of the 2018-2019 Los Angeles Clippers... More so, Ralph Lawler Appreciation Night.. He's been the color commentator for the LA Clippers for 40 years... Anyhoo... Some Fisheye fun from the stands... Canon 5DsR + 8-15L Fisheye... ISO 200, f/4.5 @ 1/25th second... Stadium light for illumination... LAC won the game!!!

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May 14, 2019 13:55 |  #557

very cool look from that lens!


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Aug 25, 2019 00:12 |  #558

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Aug 28, 2019 12:28 |  #559

Youth girls' league

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Nov 15, 2019 13:48 |  #560

A few from last Saturday
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Dec 06, 2019 14:31 as a reply to  @ burnet44's post |  #562

I guess it is that time of the year...….




  
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Dec 10, 2019 13:06 |  #563

I'm very new to basketball photography, this is my second game. I shot these in RAW, then noise reduced on Canon Professional, then saved to jpeg for light adjustment in Photo Gallery. I was very disappointed in my first game photos so I tried this approach. Next time I'll bump up ISO some more and hope for faster shutter speeds. I'm pretty much stuck with my kit 18-55 lens until I win the lottery.

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Dec 10, 2019 15:09 as a reply to  @ Terry McDaniel's post |  #564

Good effort. You have to get that shutter speed up to at least 800. Much easier to deal with ISO noise than it is motion blur, like shot #2. The people standing still are sharp but the shooter is blurred on the way up to the basket. I completely understand being on a budget. It took me years to get the gear I've got, & my wish list keeps getting longer rather than shorter. -?

I had this issue with poorly lit gyms. I found a $100 solution. B&H had the Canon nifty fifty on sale for $99!! It's a great general purpose lens for the $$$, but it works very well under the basket. At F/2.2 or 2.8, you'll be able to up that shutter speed.




  
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Dec 10, 2019 15:52 as a reply to  @ Pigpen101's post |  #565

Thanks for taking the time to answer. It is appreciated. You can really tell the difference between 1/320 and 1/200 in the two photos. I'm going to a game tonight, so we will see what happens.


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Dec 12, 2019 08:15 |  #566

Not one to disagree with Pigpen or anything like that... but gonna disagree here. Yes, 1/800 or 1/1000 would be nice. But for personal use, not needed. One of the problems you've got going on here is you are letting your camera make some decisions for you, hence why the exposure is radically different between the two shots even though they are shots of nearly the same location. Some of that can be attributed to the cycling of the lights and the camera trying to deal with that. But in cases like this, you should ALWAYS when you can shoot manual. In your case I might have been tempted to go to ISO 3200, locked your exposure into F4, and set your shutter speed to 1/400th. Or something like that. Experiment before during shoot arounds to see... but in many cases 1/400 is enough. The example below was taken at f5.6 at 1/400 at 24 mm. I personally can tolerate a little motion in the image... basketball is a sport that has lots of motion. But that is a style preference. I don't like the glossy skinned look myself. For what it is worth.... I choose this one because it has a lot of motion in it.... but all is frozen.


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Dec 12, 2019 08:17 |  #567

I haven't posted anything on this website in awhile. Here are a few shots from McNeese's men's basketball game with the U. Of Missouri-Kansas City.

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Dec 12, 2019 09:33 |  #568

I don't like motion in my pictures, so 1/400th doesn't work for me. I think sometimes we develop our styles around our limitations of gear and conditions over time, so back in the day of the 30D, I couldn't shoot high ISO without huge detriment, and I also tolerated motion blur and not-so-crisp shots, and that became my preferred look in the day.

However as my gear evolved. and lighting at venues improved, my expectations evolved, and now I want everything frozen in air, that is the look I want (and probably did since the beginning), but now my gear allows it. I don't like seeing blurry players, arms and legs, etc.

All personal choices, but if you like the stopped action in air, 1/400th only works at the times where acceleration/momentum have stopped, so at the top of a jump shot, or top of a dunk, etc. But as a player flies through the air horizontally on a fast break, 1/400th simply won't cut it. Shoot, my kids move fast enough to make a blur at 1/400th at home.

But in cases where lighting is so poor, one is left with little choice, either deal with high ISO or have blurred action/players on a majority of photos. :(

This is the look I go for, and I often crop as well, which will magnify motion, so it further complicates matters. I even want to see the dimples on the ball.

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Dec 12, 2019 15:37 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #569

Even when I had "cheaper" gear, I hated motion blur. We all know how frustrating it is when photogs around you are shooting top notch gear & you're using a kit lens. I went with the higher ISO option because in newsprint motion blur is much more noticeable than noise. As my brother would say: "I was trying to live a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget!" I know many people will argue this point but, you are limited by your gear. I know many, many photographers. Sometimes there might be as many as 100 on the field at once. When you (me) are shooting our kid's or nephew's games that's one thing, however, when you are getting paid to "get the shot", that's a different story.




  
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Dec 12, 2019 19:41 as a reply to  @ Pigpen101's post |  #570

"I know many people will argue this point but, you are limited by your gear"

It's just about learning to shoot within the limits of the gear you have. Not saying us older shooters are better, but we shot for a long time when the film we shot was 400, 800, or maybe sometimes pushed to 1,600... so we had to learn to adapt. Not out of choice but necessity.

So the last image I posted is from last night. My beloved A6300 has been retired. Shutter finally gave up. I replaced it with an A7 III as my B camera. Still trying to figure it out. The Autofocus is crazy good... I asked the SID if I could come down and do some test shooting at a game to test it out. Students are out on break, so I could have free roam of the floor. I was primarily testing how my Canon glass would play via MC-11 on it. There are other issues with it as a sports camera where the a6300 was better... focus speed and high ISO shooting not two of them though. Another post for another day.

Back to subject at hand.... this is one of the images I took last night. It is at f4 at 1/160th, ISO 2000. Yes, there is motion blur. But for many, if they didn't have the budget to buy their way into fast glass and better ISO handling, this should be good enough for most parents or hobby shooters of their kids/kids friends. You gotta start somewhere. It can be done... and yes, you can't get everything, you just gotta know what you can get.

If you have the budget and desire to buy better stuff... go for it. It always helps. Just saying there are more than one way to invest in becoming a better sports shooter.

Not sure why the shooter has talc on his arms... thats a new one on me.

EDIT: Not recommending anyone shoot a game at 1/160th... not by choice at least. But for kid shots, Bluewonder310 above has some really nice shots at slower shutter speeds.


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