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Jan 10, 2020 09:28 as a reply to  @ post 18989360 |  #2716

I'm not sure what 'soft pedal' HDR is but if you don't get the image correct during exposure (like rocks IN the water) you're not going to find them in post.


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Jan 10, 2020 09:40 |  #2717

You can't really replace the effect of a polarizer in post. On the other hand, depending on what you want to show in the image you may not want to use one. Polarizers also reduce reflections on the surface of water so you have to make some choices and compromises. More often than not on a shot like the one posted I wouldn't use one at all. If there is underwater structure I want to be able to see in the image then you might need one with the full or partial effect.


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Jan 10, 2020 09:52 |  #2718

jcothron wrote in post #18989495 (external link)
You can't really replace the effect of a polarizer in post. On the other hand, depending on what you want to show in the image you may not want to use one. Polarizers also reduce reflections on the surface of water so you have to make some choices and compromises. More often than not on a shot like the one posted I wouldn't use one at all. If there is underwater structure I want to be able to see in the image then you might need one with the full or partial effect.

You could do a shot with and a shot without and then blend them. At least with something like that shot.

But yeah, Polarizer and ND's aren't really capable of being added in post - with ND the subject movement, not exposure difference.




  
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Jan 10, 2020 10:02 |  #2719

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You could do a shot with and a shot without and then blend them. At least with something like that shot.

But yeah, Polarizer and ND's aren't really capable of being added in post - with ND the subject movement, not exposure difference.

Absolutely you could do that, that's one of the things I would consider a compromise of sorts...since it is a PITA lol. Yes there are definitely situations where that could be the best option however.


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Jan 10, 2020 11:03 |  #2720

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #18989488 (external link)
I'm not sure what 'soft pedal' HDR is but if you don't get the image correct during exposure (like rocks IN the water) you're not going to find them in post.

noun
noun: soft pedal; plural noun: soft pedals

a pedal on a piano that can be pressed to make the tone softer.

verb
verb: soft-pedal; 3rd person present: soft-pedals; past tense: soft-pedalled; past participle: soft-pedalled; gerund or present participle: soft-pedalling; past tense: soft-pedaled; past participle: soft-pedaled; gerund or present participle: soft-pedaling

refrain from emphasizing the more unpleasant aspects of; play down.
"the administration's decision to soft-pedal the missile program"

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If you shoot RAW, there will be plenty of rock & boulder detail

I agree with John, this is not a suitable subject for a polarising filter.


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Jan 10, 2020 11:31 |  #2721

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To bad you didn't do a vertical pano, that would of been really cool.

I like what you were going for.


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Jan 10, 2020 13:04 |  #2722

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To bad you didn't do a vertical pano, that would of been really cool.

I like what you were going for.

Thank you.
Same scene, different shot.

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Jan 10, 2020 15:47 |  #2723

Parys Mountain open cast copper mine, with applied HDR in post. Original shot for comparison is here; https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=18986781&i=​i149593443

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Jan 10, 2020 19:24 as a reply to  @ Stiga's post |  #2724

I'll agree to disagree. RAW won't bring back what's not there and a polarizer would have brought down the glare and retained the rocks.
Oh well, it's still a nice image and the second version does sing.

All landscape photographers should have a circular polarizer in their bag. That's my opinion obviously, but a very popular one.


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Jan 10, 2020 21:04 |  #2725

FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #18989820 (external link)
All landscape photographers should have a circular polarizer in their bag.

Mine rarely comes off the lens.


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Jan 11, 2020 11:38 |  #2726

AS_Photo wrote in post #18989501 (external link)
You could do a shot with and a shot without and then blend them. At least with something like that shot.

But yeah, Polarizer and ND's aren't really capable of being added in post - with ND the subject movement, not exposure difference.


FarmerTed1971 wrote in post #18989820 (external link)
I'll agree to disagree. RAW won't bring back what's not there and a polarizer would have brought down the glare and retained the rocks.
Oh well, it's still a nice image and the second version does sing.

All landscape photographers should have a circular polarizer in their bag. That's my opinion obviously, but a very popular one.

I use a polarizer mostly around water...to control glare and reflections but also it acts a little like a weak ND filter...the one I have gives me about 1.5 stops of ND filter. This image was shot using the CPL but not rotated to full effect, so that I could keep some of the color reflection on the water pool above the rocks...but not too much glare on the wet rocks...Live View and an EVF make this so much easier.

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Jan 11, 2020 22:52 |  #2727

Melancholy December river

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Jan 12, 2020 08:47 |  #2728

TRhoads wrote in post #18990149 (external link)
I use a polarizer mostly around water...to control glare and reflections but also it acts a little like a weak ND filter...the one I have gives me about 1.5 stops of ND filter. This image was shot using the CPL but not rotated to full effect, so that I could keep some of the color reflection on the water pool above the rocks...but not too much glare on the wet rocks...Live View and an EVF make this so much easier.

beautiful shot!!!


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Jan 12, 2020 14:21 |  #2729

Spect(r)acular!

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Jan 14, 2020 14:09 |  #2730

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