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Feb 16, 2020 10:25 |  #37336

Winter in Red Rocks Park

One of new my favorite places to explore near me is Red Rocks. This is a blue hour shot showing a small community, the Red Rocks on the left, front range, and winter landscape. Part of the trail can be found in the center. Wonderful place to explore and shoot.


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Feb 16, 2020 10:30 |  #37337

digital_AM wrote in post #19010578 (external link)
Winter in Red Rocks Park

One of new my favorite places to explore near me is Red Rocks. This is a blue hour shot showing a small community, the Red Rocks on the left, front range, and winter landscape. Part of the trail can be found in the center. Wonderful place to explore and shoot.


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Beautiful scene. What city are the lights from in the background? Is that Denver?


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Feb 16, 2020 10:42 |  #37338

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Beautiful scene. What city are the lights from in the background? Is that Denver?

Thank you Gene. Yes it’s south Denver.




  
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Feb 16, 2020 11:01 |  #37339

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it's definitely a nice piece of glass, had brief hands on with it, hate the hood though, seems unnecessarily large (I dont often use hoods, so this wouldn't bother me much). I do like the short stout size, seems a good bit smaller than the GM.

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Feb 16, 2020 11:31 |  #37340

I have the Tamron 28-75mm as it was relatively cheap as I bought it used. It is working out nice but I miss 24mm end. Sigma is $1100 at B&H. Maybe cheaper through green toe, not sure.

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Feb 16, 2020 12:12 |  #37341

question for you guys.. when exporting jpegs.

I've been exporting as 'pro photo rgb'... not by choice just never looked or took that into consideration.


i'm reading now that its a big mistake especially for client work as the photos may appear way off on an uncalibrated monitor.

i exported a set of photos in both just now and see absolutely no difference, although my monitor is nothing too fancy it is a dell that is supposed to be very good with colors covering some very high percentage of color spaces etc etc.. i don't remember all the details.. i never calibrated it , it came with some sheet showing that it was already done.

(what i did notice is that the srgb files are slightly larger than the pro photo rgb

in an case, is this a big deal?

will this matter for printing?

any thoughts would be appreciated



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Feb 16, 2020 13:54 |  #37342

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question for you guys.. when exporting jpegs.

I've been exporting as 'pro photo rgb'... not by choice just never looked or took that into consideration.


i'm reading now that its a big mistake especially for client work as the photos may appear way off on an uncalibrated monitor.

i exported a set of photos in both just now and see absolutely no difference, although my monitor is nothing too fancy it is a dell that is supposed to be very good with colors covering some very high percentage of color spaces etc etc.. i don't remember all the details.. i never calibrated it , it came with some sheet showing that it was already done.

(what i did notice is that the srgb files are slightly larger than the pro photo rgb

in an case, is this a big deal?

will this matter for printing?

any thoughts would be appreciated

post them on the web or print them to see the difference. It can be drastic...I dabbled in ProPhoto for a minute...and then went back because I kept forgetting to change the Color Space when I was going to post them somewhere...


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Feb 16, 2020 14:01 |  #37343

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post them on the web or print them to see the difference. It can be drastic...I dabbled in ProPhoto for a minute...and then went back because I kept forgetting to change the Color Space when I was going to post them somewhere...


thanks , last event i did the client said she loved the photos except when she tried to print the colors looked horrible.. though she did try to print at home so i don't know what kind of printer / paper etc..

and from my own experience printing for my self on my canon x100pro(? or something like that) its always an adventure getting the colors right

going to have to experiment to see.. but i'll export this job in SRgb to be safe



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Feb 16, 2020 15:09 |  #37344

rantercsr wrote in post #19010638 (external link)
question for you guys.. when exporting jpegs.

I've been exporting as 'pro photo rgb'... not by choice just never looked or took that into consideration.


i'm reading now that its a big mistake especially for client work as the photos may appear way off on an uncalibrated monitor.

i exported a set of photos in both just now and see absolutely no difference, although my monitor is nothing too fancy it is a dell that is supposed to be very good with colors covering some very high percentage of color spaces etc etc.. i don't remember all the details.. i never calibrated it , it came with some sheet showing that it was already done.

(what i did notice is that the srgb files are slightly larger than the pro photo rgb

in an case, is this a big deal?

will this matter for printing?

any thoughts would be appreciated

In Lr when you export the dialog window that pops up has different setting you can set . Be sure to check the one's you want and how you want them ...Make sure you have it set to Srgb .

In PS export by going to > file> save for web make sure its jpeg , optimized and image size you want, and quality is Bi cubic percent 100% Preview Monitor Color. Check the box for convert to Srgb. There's a tab set it to high as you have 5 options. You can play with that more you use it to see the differences in the file. Down on bottom left corner there is a preview tab , that will show you how your image will look out on web email etc. with all the settings you set before you hit the save button

You use other color spaces for printing... Here it gets a little tricky, you will work with your raws in the color profile your printer wants the files they will be printing for you ..


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Feb 16, 2020 15:26 |  #37345

rantercsr wrote in post #19010638 (external link)
question for you guys.. when exporting jpegs.

I've been exporting as 'pro photo rgb'... not by choice just never looked or took that into consideration.


i'm reading now that its a big mistake especially for client work as the photos may appear way off on an uncalibrated monitor.

i exported a set of photos in both just now and see absolutely no difference, although my monitor is nothing too fancy it is a dell that is supposed to be very good with colors covering some very high percentage of color spaces etc etc.. i don't remember all the details.. i never calibrated it , it came with some sheet showing that it was already done.

(what i did notice is that the srgb files are slightly larger than the pro photo rgb

in an case, is this a big deal?

will this matter for printing?

any thoughts would be appreciated

Are you using a Dell Ultrasharp. All monitors must be calibrated regardless of the colour support.

You will find the SRGB to be more spot on for your clients. You must also have some good relationships with a pro photo lab. Many photo labs DO NOT calibrate their machines when they fill it during the day. You will see this in the colour accuracy.

Another thing you must do is to assure the brightness of your monitor is matching your pro labs prints. Even a datacolour Spider 5 pro is cheap and it works extremely well for me.


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Feb 16, 2020 16:37 |  #37346

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Are you using a Dell Ultrasharp. All monitors must be calibrated regardless of the colour support.

You will find the SRGB to be more spot on for your clients. You must also have some good relationships with a pro photo lab. Many photo labs DO NOT calibrate their machines when they fill it during the day. You will see this in the colour accuracy.

Another thing you must do is to assure the brightness of your monitor is matching your pro labs prints. Even a datacolour Spider 5 pro is cheap and it works extremely well for me.



hmmm-? its a dell UP2716D

so i just switched my monitor from 'standard' to 'color space- srgb' .. and my photos went from punchy and vibrant to very flat and muted colors..

but wouldn't the average person who hires a photographer for an event or whatever just have their monitor on standard anyway?


ugh.. living in ignorance was so nice:lol:



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Feb 16, 2020 16:49 |  #37347

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hmmm-? its a dell UP2716D

so i just switched my monitor from 'standard' to 'color space- srgb' .. and my photos went from punchy and vibrant to very flat and muted colors..

but wouldn't the average person who hires a photographer for an event or whatever just have their monitor on standard anyway?

ugh.. living in ignorance was so nice:lol:

You should now always consider a high gamut monitor with at least 99-100+ % SRGB coverage. IPS panel so you can view with no disruption of contrast. Even my "fun" Samsung UR59C 32" curved screen has 103% SRGB coverage.

What is interesting is I find my calibrated monitors images looks identical to majority of all iphones displaying the same image.

When it comes to print, the lab is extremely the "make or break" in colours. Many labs will "TWEAK" the colours as the assume most people printing do not edit. All of my images I print are not modified whatsoever and they look perfect all of the time. Some print labs at your local drug store or cheap 1 hour developing shop can have DREADFUL garbage output.


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Feb 16, 2020 16:52 as a reply to  @ rantercsr's post |  #37348

I also have a Dell 27" Here's a file processed on my monitor thats a Jpeg - color space Srgb


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Feb 16, 2020 17:31 |  #37349

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Feb 16, 2020 20:20 |  #37350

Ok, here is some Indian food I cooked from scratch the other day. Not the greatest shots as I never have time to style anything...everybody just wants to dig in.


But I do have a question: my Sony 90 mm G macro lens is nice but sometimes I want to attach a polarizer or whatever and that lens has no thread on it. Am I completely blind?


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