-= 90D owners unite! Discuss and Post Photos

JayLT wrote in post #19020124
I'm waiting as well, there's very little of interest out right now but things really start to get lively around the end of April. I took this pretty soon after I picked up the 90D, now I have some new diffusers that I really want to try out as well!

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Wow, that's great.

Look at me now!
90D at 840mm

Hi CD,

1. Yes, both turned off straight out of the box;

2. No, handheld. Difficult to use tripod or monopod from wheelchair and there would be the added difficultly of carry monopod etc whilst pushing, but I've designed a special arm to support long lens rig which will clamp to my Quickie Argon 2 frame and its being manufactured for me from carbon fibre by another Veteran. Downside to Wheelchair photography, I'm always pointing lens skywards; very rarely horizontal, hence difficultly with focus, exposure levels and obtaining decent bokeh backgrounds.

Currently, it's just hold and brace; with camera held in Cotton Carrier Harness Vest whilst pushing.

3. Use BBF all the time. Only use AV, M or C modes;

4. Exposure was off. Needed negative exposure compensation added, probably - 1 to -1 1/3. So I made a note to do so in similar situation.

As always, appreciate the advice and guidance.

Grey Heron 90D Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary iso: 160, 1/2000, f5.6, ev: 0.33, spot metering:

David_Wales wrote in post #19020265
Hi CD,

1. Yes, both turned off straight out of the box;

2. No, handheld. Difficult to use tripod or monopod from wheelchair and there would be the added difficultly of carry monopod etc whilst pushing, but I've designed a special arm to support long lens rig which will clamp to my Quickie Argon 2 frame and its being manufactured for me from carbon fibre by another Veteran. Downside to Wheelchair photography, I'm always pointing lens skywards; very rarely horizontal, hence difficultly with focus, exposure levels and obtaining decent bokeh backgrounds.

Currently, it's just hold and brace; with camera held in Cotton Carrier Harness Vest whilst pushing.

3. Use BBF all the time. Only use AV, M or C modes;

4. Exposure was off. Needed negative exposure compensation added, probably - 1 to -1 1/3. So I made a note to do so in similar situation.

As always, appreciate the advice and guidance.

Grey Heron 90D Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary iso: 160, 1/2000, f5.6, ev: 0.33, spot metering:

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Regards David

David,
I like the shot! What years were you in? I was US Navy 1972-1976. I appreciate what you have to go through for your photography. My wife was a nurse at the VA for 37 years, 25 of them in spinal cord. I am a life member of the DAV but for hearing, they didn't let us use hearing protection on the firing squad back then. I consider myself extremely lucky because I can still walk up to 200 feet with a cane and stand for 5-10 minutes at a time. I have scouted out locations that are easily accessible including those that are wheelchair accessible.
I sit to shoot as my knees are both totally bone on bone and handhold my Sigma 150-600 and 60-600. One thing about sitting is I can rest the lens on my leg. Even a monopod wouldn't work for BIF. People have told me to use a tripod but how do you move with the camera, you can't. I always let my family know where I am shooting because if I fell I cannot get up by myself.
Once again thank you for your service and keep up the good work.

VSS2011 wrote in post #19020043
Perhaps an odd comment...but does anyone take images of stuff other than birds (or other flying things)?

There seems to be very few images of people/portraits or landscapes. Is the 90D incapable or am I missing something?

I think it's just that this thread attracts BIF shooters, because the 90D is possibly the most bird-oriented of Canon's current-generation enthusiast bodies. The lack of a 7D Mark III has made many birders rather anxious. And BIF is some of the hardest stuff you can do with a camera, so certainly the 90D excels at more mundane tasks as well.

Just recently got my 90D, after realizing that the 7DIII is not in the cards. I haven't had a chance to use it much, but from what I have done, I am sure I will like it. The additional resolution compared to the 7DII is immediately noticeable. The AF with the OVF on static subjects (birds on a branch) is fast and accurate. I am getting AF performance as good as with my 7DII with OVF. I am using a Tamron 150-600 G2 lens, which has not yet been calibrated for the 90D, and I anticipate a marginal improvement after that.

The real test will be BIF, and I will get a chance to run it through those paces when I go to Quivira NWR in 10 days. Lots of cranes, ducks, herons, hawks, etc flying around. My plan is to use the Omegon Red Dot finder for DSLRs, and Live view AF for BIF. Turns out that it is no problem using the 90D viewfinder with the Red Dot finder on the hotshoe. It does not get in the way. I have C2 programmed with single shot spot focus when in OVF mode, and Servo and Zone AF when in Live View. I will just have to hit the Start button when I want to take BIF shots, aim through the Red Dot finder, and then hit Start again to go back to single-shot with spot focus. If I can keep the birds somewhere in the Live View focus zone, it should, in theory, work.

Hi Jeff,

Thank you for your service too, and to your wife for supporting recovering Veterans, not an easy job in light of psychological issues we something have.

Royal Signals Regiment 1970 - 1975, then RN/RM Combined Operations Naval Gun Fire Support until 1985 when final medical discharge following injury and long recovery during Falklands War 1982. Several tours on joint operations with USN and USMC, playing war games. Especially enjoyed the wildlife in Florida.

I totally understand how difficult it must be for you to have limited mobility, and its all the more reason to applaud the images you have captured.

I really appreciate your kind words and understanding of difficulties with photography, but I will never give up trying, it's a case of constant adaptation to the complexities of the 90D.

Regards David


Little Grebe, like the reflection more: Canon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 is usm mkii iso:200, 1/800, f5.6:

ah... Wheelchair.. Gotcha!!! That is a bummer but it explain the fuzziness!!! Good luck!!!

David_Wales wrote in post #19020416
Hi Jeff,

Thank you for your service too, and to your wife for supporting recovering Veterans, not an easy job in light of psychological issues we something have.

Royal Signals Regiment 1970 - 1975, then RN/RM Combined Operations Naval Gun Fire Support until 1985 when final medical discharge following injury and long recovery during Falklands War 1982. Several tours on joint operations with USN and USMC, playing war games. Especially enjoyed the wildlife in Florida.

I totally understand how difficult it must be for you to have limited mobility, and its all the more reason to applaud the images you have captured.

I really appreciate your kind words and understanding of difficulties with photography, but I will never give up trying, it's a case of constant adaptation to the complexities of the 90D.

Regards David


Little Grebe, like the reflection more: Canon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 is usm mkii iso:200, 1/800, f5.6:

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Peregrine Falcon monochrome portrait taken with Canon 750d Canon 300mm 100% cropped, haven't achieved better IQ with 90D yet:

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David
Thank you for your service as well. I think the images are great! very impressive. While I have physical issues I am blessed every day, I am able to go up and down stairs, granted 1 at a time, and while there is a lot I cannot due there is so much I can. I will pray for you since having been married to my wife for 40 years this year and going to PVA functions with her and having a fellow USN Photographers Mate break his back and be on her floor I thank God every day for the abilities I have.

on to the 90D, I have noticed that noise above 1000 or 1600 ISO is worse than my 6D2 or even my 80D. The AF works fine for BIF that have clean backgrounds or that background is a long way away, but against cluttered backgrounds or when it is too close the bird it struggles. I really need to calibrate my Sigma 150-600 as at 500mm and at about 200 yards it seems to front focus a bit.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19020535
David
Thank you for your service as well. I think the images are great! very impressive. While I have physical issues I am blessed every day, I am able to go up and down stairs, granted 1 at a time, and while there is a lot I cannot due there is so much I can. I will pray for you since having been married to my wife for 40 years this year and going to PVA functions with her and having a fellow USN Photographers Mate break his back and be on her floor I thank God every day for the abilities I have.

on to the 90D, I have noticed that noise above 1000 or 1600 ISO is worse than my 6D2 or even my 80D. The AF works fine for BIF that have clean backgrounds or that background is a long way away, but against cluttered backgrounds or when it is too close the bird it struggles. I really need to calibrate my Sigma 150-600 as at 500mm and at about 200 yards it seems to front focus a bit.

Thank you both for your service!!

Not sure if this helps or not? I just have the 80d and have adopted using center point focus only + full manual exposure and have had tremendously good results with that combination on the 100-400 II.

I'm curious as to why the 90d cannot perform equally or better than the 80d?

Jeff,

Thank you.

Agree, one's remaining ability overcomes disability, its a case of adapt or get left behind.

I find the 150-600mm C is very soft after 400mm, never really achieved a solid focus with lens on any of my Canon's even when calibrated in camera, or in lens. I have got some brilliant images from 150-300mm when focus set to minimum 10m though.

For Wetland photography from hides, I use a hide clamp on my 750D and Sigma C; which is a combination that works together quite well at middle distance, on static subjects like Spoonbills, but 90D I hold in Cotton Carrier Harness with 100-400mm so I can quickly grab it for BIF:

Velbon Hide Clamp II

My UK wetland centre has wheelchair accessible hide viewing spots, so it's a bonus, but I can hoist myself onto full viewing stools if I need to.

This image of European Northern Shoveler was taken from hide with 90D, Canon 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 is usm mkii, iso:250, 1/800, f5.6, handheld:

markesc wrote in post #19020653
Thank you both for your service!!

Not sure if this helps or not? I just have the 80d and have adopted using center point focus only + full manual exposure and have had tremendously good results with that combination on the 100-400 II.

I'm curious as to why the 90d cannot perform equally or better than the 80d?

Mark and David
I really like the Sigma, the feel the look and the push/pull ability, and I have gotten some great results from it but also a lot of poor results. I also have the 100-400II and a 1.4xIII but I have found the results with the 90D with that combo to be slightly soft compared to the 150-600C. The 100-400II without extender is sharper than the Sigma but many of the places I am shooting are 200-300 yards to where the birds are. There are some ponds that the birds are about 100 yards but rarely have birds, you can go 5 days without a single waterfowl.

I think part of my problem is not being good with single point focus, getting on the bird and holding it. The zone AF on the 90D has 9 points but they are automatically selected and with a smaller bird (big bird at a distance) it wants to lock on the background or sky. I have been using the 45 point full zone or whatever they call it with the first point being manual, I usually use the center point but then it can easily wander off. If the 90D had the AF from the 7D2 or the 5D4 it should have been great.
I am going to do some sessions with the 100-400 and put the 1.4x in my pocket so I can quickly add it. I have been keeping my images separated by camera and lens so I can compare.

This one was the Sigma but not at my usual 500mm at 238mm, both the full image and then cropped. I am trying to learn to let the birds come to me but I still blaze away one for practice and the second because it can be days until one come close enough. Luckily I enjoy just sitting there!

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19020847
Mark and David
I really like the Sigma, the feel the look and the push/pull ability, and I have gotten some great results from it but also a lot of poor results. I also have the 100-400II and a 1.4xIII but I have found the results with the 90D with that combo to be slightly soft compared to the 150-600C. The 100-400II without extender is sharper than the Sigma but many of the places I am shooting are 200-300 yards to where the birds are. There are some ponds that the birds are about 100 yards but rarely have birds, you can go 5 days without a single waterfowl.

I think part of my problem is not being good with single point focus, getting on the bird and holding it. The zone AF on the 90D has 9 points but they are automatically selected and with a smaller bird (big bird at a distance) it wants to lock on the background or sky. I have been using the 45 point full zone or whatever they call it with the first point being manual, I usually use the center point but then it can easily wander off. If the 90D had the AF from the 7D2 or the 5D4 it should have been great.
I am going to do some sessions with the 100-400 and put the 1.4x in my pocket so I can quickly add it. I have been keeping my images separated by camera and lens so I can compare.

This one was the Sigma but not at my usual 500mm at 238mm, both the full image and then cropped. I am trying to learn to let the birds come to me but I still blaze away one for practice and the second because it can be days until one come close enough. Luckily I enjoy just sitting there!

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Well if it makes any difference, I went from renting an older sigma, to the tamron, then the 100-400 + 1.4xiii, and settled on just using the 100-400 alone with the 80d as the best "compromise", and then worked on positioning myself to be closer/spend more time hiding out for certain bird shots, and then there's just being "lucky" as well.

I do wish there was some way to do center point plus the 4 near points, but be able to program in some logic/prioritization so that it's heavily biased towards the center point unless it cannot find anything to focus on, a 90-10% rule would be nice if we could select tolerances. The issue is that in theory with a blue sky backround, five points is fine, but if subject drops below horizon/tree branches/snags = oof in most cases. This from my experience is the same on both the 5diii, iv, 70d, and 80d.

Oddly enough: 80d center only, seems to still lock focus even in cases where you've drastically missed the center point, but you were firing enough frames that the cameras refocus slowness actually works in your favor.

That's actually how I lucked out on this shot (the center point is actually above the head/out in the backround, however I just had room to crop for a better top to bottom composition):

markesc wrote in post #19020862
Well if it makes any difference, I went from renting an older sigma, to the tamron, then the 100-400 + 1.4xiii, and settled on just using the 100-400 alone with the 80d as the best "compromise", and then worked on positioning myself to be closer/spend more time hiding out for certain bird shots, and then there's just being "lucky" as well.

I do wish there was some way to do center point plus the 4 near points, but be able to program in some logic/prioritization so that it's heavily biased towards the center point unless it cannot find anything to focus on, a 90-10% rule would be nice if we could select tolerances. The issue is that in theory with a blue sky backround, five points is fine, but if subject drops below horizon/tree branches/snags = oof in most cases. This from my experience is the same on both the 5diii, iv, 70d, and 80d.

Oddly enough: 80d center only, seems to still lock focus even in cases where you've drastically missed the center point, but you were firing enough frames that the cameras refocus slowness actually works in your favor.

That's actually how I lucked out on this shot (the center point is actually above the head/out in the backround, however I just had room to crop for a better top to bottom composition):

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Great shot. Just got back from one of the ponds. Wind was in the wrong direction, from the west at 20 mph so the geese where just sitting there near me. As I started to leave a couple suddenly jumped up from me about 20 feet away and flew to the pond, I whipped up the camera and cranked down the zoom quick and did a snap burst, most out of focus but got a couple I felt that cropping severely was better than the full frame but will play some more with it.

also a shot as they kept an eye on me