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Mar 25, 2020 17:32 |  #991

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Not like Cheetos do :-)


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Mar 25, 2020 17:38 |  #992

And it's only just begun to mutate, ... Well, I'm off for dinner. Gonna grab myself two "Big Cheese Supreme" and a three taco combo... ;)


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Mar 25, 2020 17:52 |  #993

Frome someone in Spain, and yes people younger then 50 and even baby's.
its what happens as people don't stay ad home.

https://www.facebook.c​om …/videos/1644204​169060521/ (external link)


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Mar 25, 2020 17:56 |  #994

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19033534 (external link)
And it's only just begun to mutate, ... Well, I'm off for dinner. Gonna grab myself two "Big Cheese Supreme" and a three taco combo... ;)

Ask if they have DT Turkey (Deluxe Tostada w/ Turkey) if they are out of cheese balls


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Mar 25, 2020 18:01 |  #995

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...turns you orange

God forbid!


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Mar 25, 2020 19:30 |  #996

No matter if they make 1 million vents, you still have to have enough people to run them, which we would not. So there is that.




  
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Mar 25, 2020 20:10 |  #997

Interesting (scary? Sobering?) find mentioned this morning was that Virus was found to have survived 17 hours on a surface inside the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

EDIT: 17 Days...but was it... Corrections in following posts


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Mar 25, 2020 20:37 |  #998

Mozes wrote in post #19033538 (external link)
Frome someone in Spain, and yes people younger then 50 and even baby's.
its what happens as people don't stay ad home.

https://www.facebook.c​om …/videos/1644204​169060521/ (external link)


Thanks for the video link. Good reality check if only the people out there was STAY HOME!


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Mar 25, 2020 21:11 |  #999

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Interesting (scary? Sobering?) find mentioned this morning was that Virus was found to have survived 17 hours on a surface inside the Diamond Princess cruise ship.

Actually it was 17 days, which is the sobering point:

https://www.cnbc.com …fter-passengers-left.html (external link)


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Mar 25, 2020 21:19 as a reply to  @ post 19033627 |  #1000

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Actually it was 17 days, which is the sobering point:

https://www.cnbc.com …fter-passengers-left.html (external link)

Wow.

At the bottom of the article it says:

"Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess."

Not sure if that says the residue was not infectious.


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Mar 25, 2020 21:30 |  #1001

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Actually it was 17 days, which is the sobering point:

https://www.cnbc.com …fter-passengers-left.html (external link)


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Mar 25, 2020 22:15 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #1002

My wife and I have been doing our best to get daily exercise with walks around the neighborhood, even when the weather is foggy and cold. And when we get home the deer in our backyard are always curious what we're up to.


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Mar 25, 2020 22:44 |  #1003

Earlier this year we had numerous deer on the property. They disappeared when a mountain lion roamed around this area for a few weeks.

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WOW. That is even more remarkable! ;-)a


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Wow.

At the bottom of the article it says:

"Correction: This story was updated to reflect that SARS-CoV-2 RNA, not live virus, was identified on surfaces in cruise ship cabins up to 17 days after cabins were vacated on the Diamond Princess."

Not sure if that says the residue was not infectious.

Hard to interpret the correction. Outside a host, viruses are dormant. They have none of the traditional characteristics of life: no metabolism, or the ability to reproduce. So hard to call them 'alive' until they have attached themselves to a cell which can replicate the virus RNA. Virus can 'survive' a long time; one found 30000 years frozen in permafrost could infect an amoeba! Once inside a cell, it takes control and a virus can make 10,000 copies of itself in a few hours.

"Andrew Pekosz, a virologist at Johns Hopkins University, compared viruses to particularly destructive burglars: They break into your home, eat your food, use your furniture and have 10,000 babies. “And then they leave the place trashed,” he said."

So a virus needs a live host to replicate itself. It is NOT very successful if it kills its host because that ends its own replication. The virus is more successful if it invades a host and stays a nuisance...like the virus for oral herpes, which is said to have been around for millions of years, being a nuisance. It needs hosts to 'live'.

The corona RNA starts to break down faster under some circumstances, per a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine. The quoted cnbc.com article indicates that the CDC says the virus seems to be intact for 17 days, waiting to 'infect' a host.


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