Hola

So I have been busy for a few mins. Having said that, I will be purchasing a Canon 6D soon And have a few questions for those who have worked with or own this make and model.

I know I am going to have to scrap my old T5i gear which will be another 5-600 to put towards glass for the 6D once I order the 6D.

What is a quality cheap lens or lenses ) that one would suggest for the 6D?

What are the experts saying on here about the pros and cons of this item ? As it stands I will be moving from the t5i to the 6D.

Looking for any good, excellent or negative information or feedback in the 6D.

While I love my t5i I know it’s time to make my full frame purchase

Thank you. In advanced.

Why you want to go full frame and what are you usually shooting? These are essential to answer the questions you have. The 6D is a capable camera for certain things - and there are plenty of good lenses out there.

Are you thinking that you want to buy a 135-sensor camera in order to take your photography to the "next level"? How is your T5i not fulfilling your advancement in photography? Do you want to do more landscape photography with an eye toward printing mega-sized prints? Are you looking for that extra edge in low light photography? Do you normally take pictures in cramped quarters where a wider view would be beneficial? These are reasons of which I am aware that one would reasonably want to move over from an APS-C sized sensor to a 135. On the other hand, if you're into sports or wildlife photography, you're going to be a little disappointed with your "full" frame camera and find yourself shopping around for a longer lens.

"Full frame" is actually a misnomer. It implies that something exists of lower quality and is therefore less "full". Yet admirable photographs were taken with APS-C sensors before the first 135-sensor camera was created. And they still are. Furthermore, "Full", compared to what? Certainly not compared to "medium" format, which is larger (6×4.5, 6×6, 6×7, 6×9cm). And what about "large" format (4x5 or 8x10 inches)? In terms of logic, how can the term "full frame" (24x35mm) make sense compared to medium and large format? I submit that we should have a new term to replace "full". Oh wait, there already is one: 135 format.

I started out with 35mm film photography. My first foray into digital was the Canon 20D. I quickly discovered that its field of view was smaller than my broken-down EOS Elan. After lamenting the inability to take in more in cramped quarters, I bought an 18-85mm lens. Problem solved.

"Full" is a marketing ploy to get people to buy more expensive cameras that they don't truly need.

One of the biggest reasons I want to move out of the crop area is low light shooting. The T5i seems to have horrible noise around the 400 and up mark.

ferratus wrote in post #19047313
What is a quality cheap lens or lenses ) that one would suggest for the 6D?

Cheap is relative.

Before you get too far into it, determine what you intend to shoot. Buy lenses for that purpose.

If you want convenient all-round lenses that don't cost a fortune, get f/4 zooms. The 6D produces lovely images up to ISO 6400. ISO 12k is usable. 2.8 zooms will set you back financially but if you shoot low light frequently the extra stop can be worth the price. Beyond that you're going to need flash.

If you're doing portraits, like the shallow DOF thing, and don't mind moving around to get the framing you want, consider primes. They're generally less expensive than zooms but they're more demanding to use in some situations.

Suggestions. All Canon EF. Emphasis on (relatively) cheap.

Zooms
24-105 4.0 IS v1
70-200 4.0 IS v1
100-400 4.5-5.6 IS v1

Primes
35 2.0
50 1.8 STM
85 1.8

If you have $$, these v1 primes can be found used in good condition although they tend to retain their value
35 1.4
50 1.2
135 2.0

If you're into manual focus lenses, a chipless EF-M42 adapter opens an array of inexpensive options. There's a number of really good Pentax M42 mount lenses that have unique characteristics. Takumar & Helios lenses can be found on eBay for a reasonable price from time to time. They're also common at second hand stores, flea markets and estate sales. Check out Pentax Forums.

ferratus wrote in post #19047313
pros and cons of this item

I purchased my 6D in 2013. It's a good all round performer. The AF system is rudimentary but it gets the job done. The sensor is excellent in low light. RAW files are easy to work with. The body is reasonably durable. I've taken mine everywhere. Subjected it to light rain, snow, sub-zero temps and gravity. It's still rockin' like it's brand new.

I agree with the suggestions about taking it slowly and not assuming that "full frame" is an improvement over "inadequate frame". No, wait. That's how the marketing people want you to think!

I really, really like how Joe (above) shifted away from the word "full" and referred to is size, 135.

I have a T3i and my kids have T4i and T6s bodies. The noise is bad ... when underexposed and the image needs to bed pushed.

Money spent on bodies will get you some results. Money spent on education will also get results and potentially more valuable results as said learnings will carry forward from body to body. And I'm not saying that you need a class based on the question. I'm saying that everyone grows from learning no matter their experience.

Lighting is even more on this case. Money spent on lighting can give you better results and likely more efficiently than money spent on bodies. And money spent on learning about lighting? Even more.

In the past few years, I took (different) classes with Joe McNally and Joel Grimes. I bought books from them and Syl Arena. I still use those lessons and my 6D sits on a shelf.

ferratus wrote in post #19048579
One of the biggest reasons I want to move out of the crop area is low light shooting. The T5i seems to have horrible noise around the 400 and up mark.

My direct comparison experience is a few years old, where I compared the first gen 80D and 6D. The difference was there, but it was really small. My conclusion was: Get the latest sensor generation and the features you most likely need and don't worry too much about full frame or crop. If low light is really the main factor, then you also might want to have a look at the Sony out there. It seems they still take the lead in terms of low light performance - but my knowledge is lagging behind the curve.
And as aezoss indicated: You might also want to think about flash?

dasmith232 wrote in post #19048612
[...] Joe McNally and Joel Grimes. I bought books from them and Syl Arena.

I really learned a lot from Joe's books. Mainly his attitude and the shift from technical quality to picture quality.

ferratus wrote in post #19048579
One of the biggest reasons I want to move out of the crop area is low light shooting. The T5i seems to have horrible noise around the 400 and up mark.

This is a good reason for an upgrade, and the 6D will be a big improvement.

The 35mm F2 IS is an excellent lens, not very expensive and often available used. Although not an L lens, it punches well about its weight. I think the 35mm focal length is very useful and being F2 with IS, it will do very well in low light. I recommend it very highly. I have occasionally considered getting a 35/1.4L but cant justify it since I have the 35/2 IS.