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R5 v/s R6- here they are. which for you and why ?

 
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Jul 09, 2020 22:25 |  #46

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My thoughts exactly

OMG- that 8K video eats up cards. Polin just said 8 mins on a 64GB card for video.....Have you seen what a 1TB card costs...add another 1K to the body so you can shoot video for 51 minutes......not for me

I strictly shoot stills and I have plenty of reach

You don't have to shoot 8K raw. You can shoot 8K H.265,4.2.2/10-bit (680-1300 mb/s) or 8K H.264,4.2.0/8-bit. But agreed, if you don't shoot video or don't need 8K, the decision between the R5 and R6 is a hard choice. I wish the R6 at least had the same resolution as my 80D's, but I certainly don't need the 45mp of the R5.

Has anyone seen any specs on dynamic range?


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Jul 09, 2020 22:27 |  #47

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25000 with an F/11 lens...all comes down to sensor performance

this is F/10 at 25000 ISO on the Nikon D5 sensor. a 600 F/4 with a 2XTC

maybe useless was a little strong. but a 600mm at F/4 v/s F/11 is different leagues
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I don't think anyone is putting f11 DO lenses in same league as 600 f4.


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Jul 09, 2020 22:33 |  #48

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disagree

F/11 and a 1.4 tC puts these new lens at F/13....thats a full daylight lens

wildlife is most active dawn and dusk....F/11-13 is useless

Im glad a Have a 500F/4. Its going no where

I agree. I'm not sure what the target audience is for these f/11 telephotos. The 100-500 with a 1.4x TC looks like a better, albeit pricier, alternative. Or one of the Sigma or Tamron super zooms (I assume they'll both have native RF mount versions soon).


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Jul 09, 2020 22:33 |  #49

digital paradise wrote in post #19090729 (external link)
Mechanically it will. Unless there is something I’m not aware of with pin communication I would guess it should. I’ll try it out for you when my stuff comes in.

The RF TC might not fit inside the adapter. ie the protruding front element of the TC. Looking forward to you letting us know.


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Jul 09, 2020 22:36 |  #50

Both great and the R5 for me.




  
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Jul 09, 2020 22:53 |  #51

A while ago I made the decision I'm going all out R and RF. I'm not sure if I or we will ever know how much difference it will make to have a dedicated RF lens that takes full advantage of the 3 extra pins for high speed transmission. That is one reason why I'm doing this. I have never experienced what it is like to shoot with a 1DX series camera or a Sony A9 II, etc but I figure the R5 is will be pretty close. Today I was going to decide if I stay with Canon or get a Sony birding rig.

Heck the R AF is/was better than my 7D2 and 5D4 with the 2X. Both those bodies were not great at acquiring initial AF in Servo while following a moving object. It also made me question the tracking accuracy after initial AF was acquired (when it felt like doing so). The R focuses pretty quickly with that combo but it lacks the horsepower, etc.

The 100-400 II has been a very good lens for me. As TeamSpeed said the R will AF with it and the 2X and can produce nice work. No bragging about the keeper rate but I always came home with something. I used it quite a bit in Portugal last spring.

I have wanted the R5 and the 100-500 for a while now. After the presentations I was also curious about the 800 DO. As you all know this endeavour is pretty expensive. I sold my 400 DO but I had to if I wanted to move on. I'll miss it but it was never the lens I really wanted.

I called my local store and said sign me up for the R6, 100-500, 800 DO and the 1.4 TC. He said what? All you have talked about was the R5 :-) After a few hours I came to my senses and called him back and said you are right. Switch to the R5 and drop the 800. I figured to keep the costs down and avoid cropping I'd get the 800 to compensate for the R6's 20 megapixels. During those two hours I thought I'd miss the cropping ability of the R5 which I really like to do and I might regret it.

I decided the 100-500 has a nice range. Along with the 1.4 puts me at 700mm and with 45 megapixels will give me the crop-ability to make up for the rest. I'll have a look at the 800 DO down the road once the ouch time of this change settles. I have more gear I will need to sell. Both my 1.4 III and 2X III went today.

I have my R and RF 24-105 and I really like it. Perfect at 30 megapixels for street photography, etc. I won't need burst shooting, etc so I don't see the need to upgrade for a long time. All my gear will be in the Canon camp so I can interchange lenses, etc. I'm glad I got the R and waited it out.


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Jul 09, 2020 22:56 |  #52

Coming from a 5D Mark IV, I opted for the R6. Love the specs for the R5 but I have no need for 8K video and I can't see myself spending $$ for the CFast cards.

But selling the 5D Mark IV for $1800 and only paying $2210 for the R6 after tax and discounts (that not including 2.5% cashback and another 3%), I think it was a good choice.


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Jul 09, 2020 22:59 |  #53

Choderboy wrote in post #19090741 (external link)
The RF TC might not fit inside the adapter. ie the protruding front element of the TC. Looking forward to you letting us know.

This occurred to me I was writing post 51 and I was just going to respond. I had a look at the adapter and I'm so sure it will. I'll do that as I'm keeping an adapter.


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Jul 09, 2020 23:35 |  #54

iazybandit wrote in post #19090750 (external link)
Coming from a 5D Mark IV, I opted for the R6. Love the specs for the R5 but I have no need for 8K video and I can't see myself spending $$ for the CFast cards.

But selling the 5D Mark IV for $1800 and only paying $2210 for the R6 after tax and discounts (that not including 2.5% cashback and another 3%), I think it was a good choice.

I doubt I'll get a CFast card as I'm not shooting video for now. Mayne way down the road and some features looked good. I have very fast 64 GB that will work for now. I have never filed a ¼ of it with my R. I'll get another if I need to. I'm not sure everyone will agree but I had the video gripe at my local camera store. They told me cameras did not really go up that much in price due to video. I suppose they could have went down.


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Jul 09, 2020 23:44 |  #55

Choderboy wrote in post #19090741 (external link)
The RF TC might not fit inside the adapter. ie the protruding front element of the TC. Looking forward to you letting us know.

Actually if you look at the pictures of the RF RC's they protrude a lot.


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Jul 09, 2020 23:56 |  #56

Unless he was paid to or is ignoring blackout watch his reaction at minute 6:20. Need to rewatch the presentation.


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Jul 10, 2020 00:01 |  #57

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Of these two, the R5 is definitely the one that I am most interested in. . I've done the 20 megapixel thing and the slow frame rate thing - neither works well for my needs and wants. . At all.

The jump from 16mp and 20mp with my previous cameras to the 30mp that my new-to-me 5D4 has is something that is immensely useful to me. . The feather detail that I am getting in my bird images is far and away better with 30mp than it ever was with 16mp and 20mp. . I can only imagine how much awesomer 45mp will be!

Plus, I need the most robust weather sealing and build quality that is possible, and I suspect that the R5 will be more suited to the outdoor abuse that I subject my camera bodies to.

But I should add that I will not be in the market for the R5 until I can get it used for a mere fraction of the release price. . I'm thinking that I will be able to afford one when I can get it for about $1400. . So probably in 4 years or thereabouts ..... maybe even 5 years. . My 5D4 will have to last that long.


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Tom, do you like your 5D4 better than your 7D2 for wildlife (I think you shot with one IIRC)?


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Jul 10, 2020 00:11 |  #58

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Jul 10, 2020 00:37 |  #59

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far superior ISO performance than that 7D2...also Eye focus, 20FPS...lots of reasons why the R5 is vastly superior to a 7D2

How does the R5 ISO performance compare with the 7D2?


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Jul 10, 2020 06:11 |  #60

Sigma 150-600 plus 1.4xIII gives you 840mm at f9. I would consider that personally if I thought I wanted the 800 RF and couldn't get it. I have used that combo with the R and M50 with great success.


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