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Aug 21, 2020 18:57 |  #4651

Milkyway over Gatlinburg, Tn.

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I took this early in our vacation to the Smokies. It was right down the road from our cabin near Pigeon Forge. The light pollution is from Gatlinburg. Unfortunately, I was not able to get down into the mountains yet, and this was the only really clear night we had.



  
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Aug 22, 2020 12:52 |  #4652

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Milkyway over Gatlinburg, Tn.

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I took this early in our vacation to the Smokies. It was right down the road from our cabin near Pigeon Forge. The light pollution is from Gatlinburg. Unfortunately, I was not able to get down into the mountains yet, and this was the only really clear night we had.

That's very nice work there.


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Aug 22, 2020 13:52 |  #4653

Thought I'd take a 2nd crack at this.


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Aug 23, 2020 03:20 |  #4654

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Aug 23, 2020 08:25 as a reply to  @ GlimmerMan's post |  #4655

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Aug 23, 2020 08:48 |  #4656

Couple of shots taken whilst camping last week. We had a lousy week of weather so I was lucky to get any shots of the sky.


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Aug 23, 2020 11:39 |  #4657

So tried my hand at the milky way again and got better detail for sure, but no matter how many times i've watched videos on how to edit astrophotography pics I get nowhere near the same style of picture that others get. I'd love to send the raw file to someone who knows and maybe i can learn something from that, or realize that i don't have good enough to do so really. But anyways here is my "artist" take on the milky way.


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Aug 23, 2020 12:37 as a reply to  @ moose517's post |  #4658

What editing software are u using?




  
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Aug 23, 2020 22:03 as a reply to  @ goalerjones's post |  #4659

I've been using lightroom as that's all I have really


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Aug 24, 2020 19:14 |  #4660

moose517 wrote in post #19113516 (external link)
So tried my hand at the milky way again and got better detail for sure, but no matter how many times i've watched videos on how to edit astrophotography pics I get nowhere near the same style of picture that others get. I'd love to send the raw file to someone who knows and maybe i can learn something from that, or realize that i don't have good enough to do so really. But anyways here is my "artist" take on the milky way.
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Here's a quick little Lightroom tutorial: https://community.adob​e.com …room/td-p/11019315?page=1 (external link)




  
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Aug 25, 2020 14:16 as a reply to  @ sogs's post |  #4661

interesting! The source photo isn't the best but i took an attempt at the same picture again following that and i like the results. Definitely realized the 50mm f/1.8 @1.8 isn't sharp and so gonna give it a go again soon stopped down a bit. Also found a darker location so see if that helps


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Aug 25, 2020 15:22 |  #4662

Made an attempt at MW in Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park a couple weekends back. I took a chance going knowing things may not pan out with tough conditions due to active wildfires north and south of the park. There was no moon, skies were cloud free, but smoke ended up smudging out much of the core, and the active fire provided some glow at the horizon. I had tiny pieces of ash blowing/falling at my location. First time using a speed booster adapter with the Rokinon 14 to end up with an APS-C equivalent of 10mm and f/2.


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Aug 25, 2020 18:30 |  #4663

moose517 wrote in post #19114711 (external link)
interesting! The source photo isn't the best but i took an attempt at the same picture again following that and i like the results. Definitely realized the 50mm f/1.8 @1.8 isn't sharp and so gonna give it a go again soon stopped down a bit. Also found a darker location so see if that helps
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Dude, there is something with technique that is not working in that image. Are you cropped in at 2-300% ?
Stopping down is probably the wrong way to go unless you're only going to f2.0 or f2.8.
You might be missing focus, so that is something to check during daylight. Maybe try this:
Manual focus. Go to infinity and then back off a little. See if that works in the daylight then you'll just have to repeat at night and check your frames after each exposure.
ISO 3200 F2.0
15 second exposure, which might be a little too long for a 50. So shoot a few at ISO 5000 and 10 sec.
Disable any lens or camera image stabilization.
Use a 2 sec timer on your shots.
If you're not shooting RAW then set your WB to 4300.
Just my2c. Hope it helps.


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Aug 25, 2020 21:10 as a reply to  @ moose517's post |  #4664

With a crop sensor camera you should divide 300 (500 for a full frame) by your lens focal length to determine your longest shutter speed. So 300/50 would be 6 sec shutter speed. You would need to increase your ISO to 3200-6400. Set your shutter for 2 second delay. Play with your focus, not sure if the 90D has a magnification your back screen but if it does set it to the highest magnification and then turn your focus till the stars are just pinpoints. Turn off all in camera noise reduction and lens IS if it has it. You aren't going to get the cleanest picture with that sensor, but you should be able to create some nicer that your present results.




  
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Aug 26, 2020 11:57 |  #4665

GlimmerMan wrote in post #19114841 (external link)
Dude, there is something with technique that is not working in that image. Are you cropped in at 2-300% ?
Stopping down is probably the wrong way to go unless you're only going to f2.0 or f2.8.
You might be missing focus, so that is something to check during daylight. Maybe try this:
Manual focus. Go to infinity and then back off a little. See if that works in the daylight then you'll just have to repeat at night and check your frames after each exposure.
ISO 3200 F2.0
15 second exposure, which might be a little too long for a 50. So shoot a few at ISO 5000 and 10 sec.
Disable any lens or camera image stabilization.
Use a 2 sec timer on your shots.
If you're not shooting RAW then set your WB to 4300.
Just my2c. Hope it helps.

yeah, I'm pretty sure the focus was off on this shot, others that night were focused fine, must have accidentally changed focus and didn't realize it, no matter the edit it seems soft, definitely no crop which is almost what it looks like too huh. I'm happy with everything about that image except for that I should have stated. I was borrowing the 50 that night and was running out of time to do so. that lens in particular i know has issues idk if that is what did it, been wanting to pick up a new 50 STM and maybe won't be so rushed and on my own time. I'll keep other settings you mention in mind though for next time!

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With a crop sensor camera you should divide 300 (500 for a full frame) by your lens focal length to determine your longest shutter speed. So 300/50 would be 6 sec shutter speed. You would need to increase your ISO to 3200-6400. Set your shutter for 2 second delay. Play with your focus, not sure if the 90D has a magnification your back screen but if it does set it to the highest magnification and then turn your focus till the stars are just pinpoints. Turn off all in camera noise reduction and lens IS if it has it. You aren't going to get the cleanest picture with that sensor, but you should be able to create some nicer that your present results.

well that would explain why the pictures were so blown out bright! Where i was out shooting i had no phone reception and couldn't remember exactly what the 500 rule stated so i just went for the settings i had used last time of ~13 second exposure on my 24mm. Need to create myself a little cheat sheet and stick in my bag for next time.


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