Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

Been really busy with a combination of 3rd quarter results and 2021 budget planning hell at work so apologies if I hadn't responded to any posts you guys directed at me in the past couple of weeks.

Regarding the a7c since a lot of people have questions about it......it's only been a couple of days but I've been shooting with it a bit and I really really love this camera. From a shooting experience perspective, I haven't enjoyed a camera this much since the original a7r and the rx1rII.

The EVF is noticeably small, but its not a big deal and you adjust to it pretty quickly. The big downside isn't necessarily the size of the EVF, but how deep the eye-cup is...you really need to push your eye into it to seal out ambient light. Not an issue for me even when I did some shooting outdoors yesterday afternoon, but could be an issue for people who wear glasses?

MF with the CV40 works fine.....I tend to rely on focus peaking and only magnify when focus peaking has trouble highlighting the focal plane...could be placebo effect, but it seems that focus peaking works a bit better on the a7c as I'm finding I don't need to magnify as often.

AF seems to be an improvement over the a7rIV....eye AF is even more sticky and live-tracking doesn't jump around as much. I did some tracking torture tests with the kids y'day and the hit rate when bursting is higher than the a7rIV, though TBH, the lower resolution means there is more headroom in the critical focus areas when you start to pixel peep.

The camera doesn't have a mechanical first curtain shutter, so there are downsides with that as we all know. This is a big reason I wouldn't rely on this as my main camera for paid work because of bokeh issues at fast shutter speeds and occasional flash sync issues.

Regarding controls....you give up a front control wheel, some custom buttons, and the joystick with the a7c. For those of us who shot with the a7rII and earlier cameras, we all know the work arounds and the muscle memory with using the control pad to select AF points kicks in again. The record button for video cam be mapped, but you do give up the ability to start shooting video outside of movie mode with a button. I haven't figured out an alternative way to shoot video in manual or AV mode with that button mapped to something else.

Last point...I posted this in FM, but now that I have this thing in hand, I really appreciate the thought process that went into the design of the camera....they really did everything they could to minimize the size of the body. The camera lacks a front control wheel, but when you actually hold the camera, you realize that the grip is only slightly larger than the Z battery...its basically a hollow space for the battery and nothing more. The topside "hump" is just tall enough to clear the lens mount, and the height of it is basically flush with the control wheels and hotshoe. The EVF is small because it fits within the "hump" without protruding. This really minimizes the height of the overall camera and makes it easier to pack into a bag or even a small pocket.

The EVF hump on the other a7 bodies seems immaterially large and it probably is for a lot of people, but when it comes to packability, the tallest point of the hump is basically the height of the entire camera. Depending on how you shoot and carry a camera, losing the hump can go a long way.

I.e. I just packed the a7c and two extra lenses I to the peak design sling 5L. A7riv takes up two slots in this bad so usually can I let pack 1 extra lens

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eriet30 wrote in post #19145528
What I need to do is send you my gear to take pics of and post and say things like ooo i love this camera or lens...... then I will go HOT DANG I NEED THAT....... and will already have it

Now that ^^^ is a good idea!!

Couple shots from the a7c. Family photography is basically all I do these days, which makes this camera even more appealing.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1Z​ajN

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1W​7Ct

navydoc wrote in post #19144975
Nice "3D" pop.

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #19145193
Not keen? why not? Looks darn good to me. Would be nice if some Sun light had graced you but I know all about that.

I think I'm just not used to taking those type of images so they just don't 'do' anything for me...... If that makes sense...?

mystik610 wrote in post #19145783
Couple shots from the a7c. Family photography is basically all I do these days, which makes this camera even more appealing.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1Z​ajN DSC00071 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1W​7Ct DSC00089 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

I need to get back to doing more of that...I was doing good for a while and then stopped. Several times in the last few weeks I have seen little splashes of light and family life that would have been good to capture and I was too lazy or busy to stop and shoot it. For a while, I kept a camera ready on my bookshelf...I need to do that again.

Last night was Trunk or Treat at school...she was mad that masks were required since she wanted me to paint her face...so we painted, or markered the mask instead.

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #19145599
I love the concept and applaud Sony for it; but it is still the rangefinder style I do not like.
Only once came close...the NEX-7 with the Tri-navi wheels. Heck I was even looking a NEX-7s the other day
and ultimately decided not.

Slap a FF sensor in that body and I’m first to order.

mystik610 wrote in post #19145755
Been really busy with a combination of 3rd quarter results and 2021 budget planning hell at work so apologies if I hadn't responded to any posts you guys directed at me in the past couple of weeks.

Regarding the a7c since a lot of people have questions about it......it's only been a couple of days but I've been shooting with it a bit and I really really love this camera. From a shooting experience perspective, I haven't enjoyed a camera this much since the original a7r and the rx1rII.

The EVF is noticeably small, but its not a big deal and you adjust to it pretty quickly. The big downside isn't necessarily the size of the EVF, but how deep the eye-cup is...you really need to push your eye into it to seal out ambient light. Not an issue for me even when I did some shooting outdoors yesterday afternoon, but could be an issue for people who wear glasses?

MF with the CV40 works fine.....I tend to rely on focus peaking and only magnify when focus peaking has trouble highlighting the focal plane...could be placebo effect, but it seems that focus peaking works a bit better on the a7c as I'm finding I don't need to magnify as often.

AF seems to be an improvement over the a7rIV....eye AF is even more sticky and live-tracking doesn't jump around as much. I did some tracking torture tests with the kids y'day and the hit rate when bursting is higher than the a7rIV, though TBH, the lower resolution means there is more headroom in the critical focus areas when you start to pixel peep.

The camera doesn't have a mechanical first curtain shutter, so there are downsides with that as we all know. This is a big reason I wouldn't rely on this as my main camera for paid work because of bokeh issues at fast shutter speeds and occasional flash sync issues.

Regarding controls....you give up a front control wheel, some custom buttons, and the joystick with the a7c. For those of us who shot with the a7rII and earlier cameras, we all know the work arounds and the muscle memory with using the control pad to select AF points kicks in again. The record button for video cam be mapped, but you do give up the ability to start shooting video outside of movie mode with a button. I haven't figured out an alternative way to shoot video in manual or AV mode with that button mapped to something else.

Last point...I posted this in FM, but now that I have this thing in hand, I really appreciate the thought process that went into the design of the camera....they really did everything they could to minimize the size of the body. The camera lacks a front control wheel, but when you actually hold the camera, you realize that the grip is only slightly larger than the Z battery...its basically a hollow space for the battery and nothing more. The topside "hump" is just tall enough to clear the lens mount, and the height of it is basically flush with the control wheels and hotshoe. The EVF is small because it fits within the "hump" without protruding. This really minimizes the height of the overall camera and makes it easier to pack into a bag or even a small pocket.

The EVF hump on the other a7 bodies seems immaterially large and it probably is for a lot of people, but when it comes to packability, the tallest point of the hump is basically the height of the entire camera. Depending on how you shoot and carry a camera, losing the hump can go a long way.

I.e. I just packed the a7c and two extra lenses I to the peak design sling 5L. A7riv takes up two slots in this bad so usually can I let pack 1 extra lens

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My dreams of a RX1RIII are fading by the day and I might look at the a7c when bodies start to hit the $1,200-1,300 or so. I much prefer the rangefinder style body.

I think the a7c combined with the 28f2 would make a great small body option.

With the crap weather and some free time I've been watching A7c vlogs today.....

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #19145599
I love the concept and applaud Sony for it; but it is still the rangefinder style I do not like.
Only once came close...the NEX-7 with the Tri-navi wheels. Heck I was even looking a NEX-7s the other day
and ultimately decided not.

The NEX-7 was what brought me into the Sony camp from Canon, for the time it was a great compact solution with huge amount of adaptability when the metabones adapters were introduced.

TRhoads wrote in post #19145834
I need to get back to doing more of that...I was doing good for a while and then stopped. Several times in the last few weeks I have seen little splashes of light and family life that would have been good to capture and I was too lazy or busy to stop and shoot it. For a while, I kept a camera ready on my bookshelf...I need to do that again.

Last night was Trunk or Treat at school...she was mad that masks were required since she wanted me to paint her face...so we painted, or markered the mask instead.

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I like the ears and mask combo!


Yeah I get lazy about it too. The key really is keep the camera ready at the house, and try to pack it when you head out even if you aren't sure you'll do any shooting. I usually keep a camera on my desk ready to go. a7c definitely lends to the cause of packing a camera more often.

ggweci wrote in post #19145493
I’ve read this concern a few times. Is it prevalent?

I use Godox flashes - off camera manual and on (TT350) TTL with my A7ii always set to EFCS in and have never had an issue.

One day i went to the client's house for a family portrait and it keeps misfiring. that's before i know what's the culprit. what i don't like about it is i looked like i don't know what I'm doing

mystik610 wrote in post #19145783
Couple shots from the a7c. Family photography is basically all I do these days, which makes this camera even more appealing.

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1Z​ajN DSC00071 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2k1W​7Ct DSC00089 by Carlo Alcala, on Flickr

you're family photos are really nice. before my next vacation, i'll buy that camera. The vacation will not happen though if covid19 don't leave earth.

Explored Garden of the Gods an hour away from me. The light had spilled between the large rocks across the pines. I zoomed in tight with my FE 100-400 GM to capture this image.

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digital_AM wrote in post #19145968
Explored Garden of the Gods an hour away from me. The light had spilled between the large rocks across the pines. I zoomed in tight with my FE 100-400 GM to capture this image.

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I'm also intrigued about what I don't see in this image. A horse trail perhaps? A railroad line cutting between the rocks?

Looks like you're working your way ever closer to Royal Gorge too. I wonder if the train that follows the river is still running or if the Royal Gorge Bridge is open too?