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7D II or 5D MKIV still worth buying?

 
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Dec 17, 2020 10:43 |  #1

As per title, are they still worth buying "brand new" ?

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Dec 17, 2020 12:52 |  #2

I don’t know about the 5D markIV as I never had one but the 7D markII I would only buy used with a low shutter count. You can probably find a really nice 7D mark II for less than half the new price and it is still capable of taking excellent photos, it is not the best APS-C camera anymore but it is still pretty good.

As for the full frame camera you might be better off with the mirrorless R series depending on what you are shooting seeing how the market seems to be quickly moving away from DSLR cameras.

I myself prefer the Nikon equivalents in DSLRs.




  
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Dec 17, 2020 21:10 |  #3

I have both cameras. I use my 7d as much as my 5d. I think it all depends on what you like.




  
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Dec 17, 2020 21:15 |  #4

5DM4 is a great all around camera. I have not owned a 7D2, so I cannot speak to that. If it weren't my need to have a truly silent shutter, I'd probably still be using the M4 for all my work.




  
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Dec 17, 2020 22:20 |  #5

Since all my lenses are EF, if Canon stops making DSLR, or I stop buying them, the 5D4 will be the last DSLR I will ever own.
ie: I will not part with it as long as I still have this EF glass. Everything else, I don't really care. My 7D2, which I love, is about to go to my wife to replace her ailing 60D. I can live without no problem.

My point, if you intend to continue to own a Canon DLSR in this new mirrorless age, get a 5D4 and it will be the last DSLR you ever buy.


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Dec 18, 2020 17:06 |  #6

They are both decent cameras for the money depending, but only used really. The 5D mk IV would be worth it if you can get it new or used for cheap, but it is about the same price new that you can get the R6 which is a better camera. Used it is still a good body but you would have to make the call if you want to get one used or save up a bit more and get the R6. I upgraded recently from the 7D mk II to the R6 and as good as the R6 is, the fact that you can get the 7D mk II for $600-700 used all day long makes it hard to really say. The 7D mk II is still a very reliable camera and capable of doing wildlife/sprots, it is a bit old but doesn't show its age like the original 7D. The price of them used is rather good if you are on a budget, but if you are looking at the 5D mk IV price range, no question get the R6. It is better in most ways. What is your use case, what are you shooting?


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Dec 18, 2020 18:07 |  #7

If still like to use DSLRs, yes, they are.


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Dec 18, 2020 20:39 |  #8

To the OP point, are they worth buying "brand new".

If you are a hobbyest or shooting wildlife, then yes to the 7D Mk II.

Everything else = 5D Mk IV.


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Dec 18, 2020 23:21 |  #9

The 7d2 does great at sports as well. With the 11-16 tokina or 12-24 sigma, it will do landscapes beautifully too.


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Dec 20, 2020 13:39 |  #10

Hey all, I really like full frame, so I was leaning towards 5D MKIV... but after much thinking, I think I will go mirrorless (I'm gonna miss that loud mirror slap :)).

Anyway, the review below sold me the R6 (R5 is too much money)

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=dr4jqs0_05U (external link)

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Dec 20, 2020 19:25 |  #11

The 5D4 has been Canon's do it all pretty darn good camera, right there with the 1D4, two of the best all around swiss army knife bodies of the past. I don't see myself selling my 5D4 ever, but who knows. The R6 is a good alternative, other than the almost 25% reduction in resolution in both dimensions. I wish the R6 had the R/5D4 resolution.

Also some of what that lady says the 5D4 couldn't get, I disagree. More work on the 5D4 yes, but very capable of doing what the R6 is doing (except for bursts). Eye AF just makes everything easier as a whole, but it doesn't create shooting opportunities that never existed before with the 5D4. The burst rate in electronic shutter is great, and if you want to get that initial first kiss at a wedding, or the bouquet catch, or the garter toss and snatch, 20fps will definitely give you options. :)

Good luck and congrats on the decision!


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Dec 27, 2020 08:09 as a reply to  @ strobe monkey's post |  #12

I would think that decision out a bit more. I have a Canon 5DmkIV and just got a R5 and the RF 100-500mm zoom and RF 800mm. BTW, I have also had a 7d and 7DmkII.

Here is my take! I don't like the 7Ds, I never had so many focusing problems. I always had to macro-adjust the focusing on my telephoto lenses. I do wildlife photography. Which brings me to my new experiences with the R5. I took it out and found it does not handle low light situations well at all. My go-to camera is still the 5DmkIV with the Ext1.4 and the 100-400mm. Perhaps, I need to spend more time with the R5, but for early morning shooting it will have to be the 5DmkIV. I did some test with between the two bodies and their lenses and found some minor improvement in the sharpness of the images with the R5 under identical image, lighting, and stability.

The Canon 5DmkIV is pretty darn inexpensive right now for what you get. It is a solid camera body. The R6 might give you better low light images, but it is only a 20 megapixel sensor. So it really depends on how you are planning to use the body and although you can get the adapter to use your old EF lenses, the RF lenses are at a premium price range.


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Dec 27, 2020 22:20 |  #13

I feel the extra 10MP in the 5D4 sensor far outweighs the minuscule noise advantage of the 1DXIII/R6 20 mp sensor. Just my point of view.


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Dec 31, 2020 00:56 |  #14

For me personally I can say that I dont mind the 20mp resolution. I have used a 5D mk IV a decent amount and the R6 so far has been a sharper camera for me. It has a decent amount more dynamic range and less noise at higher ISO that I have noticed personally, but I think that is more the newer sensor tech than anything, I said the same thing going from the 7D to the 7D mk II. I sort of wish it had a 24-30mp sensor instead of 20, but I am also very happy with image quality and anymore with what I am doing, the smaller file sizes are also very handy as I tend to shoot 1000-2000 images a weekend when I am actively shooting and saving 25% off the image sizes is nice just for workflow afterwards. I dont know if I will miss that resolution since most of my use is for 1500px jpgs that are destoryed from compression on social media/mobile. I am also a bit of a weird case in that I prefer telephoto lenses, so I really dont crop much other than to get aspect ratios, I more shoot with as close to correct sizing as I can.


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Jan 03, 2021 15:45 |  #15

If the question was more related to wildlife and landscapes, would you lean to the 5DIV more than the R6? I have the 7DII and it will likely continue to be my dedicated sports body but I will probably be doing less sports after track season this spring.




  
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