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Apr 09, 2020 22:24 |  #1

As I await the X-T4 I added an X-e3 to get a taste of the Fuji menus and sensor quirks.
So far no Fuji lenses so I'm adapting Canon lenses via the stellar Fringer II. I can't as of now know
how Fuji lenses are but the Canon lenses adapted to the X-e3 are as fast and the Canon lenses adapted
to my Sony kit via the Sigma MC-11.

Here's my first BIF using Fuji (X-e3) using the Canon 400mm F5.6

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Apr 10, 2020 10:57 |  #2

Awesome shots! I'm impressed; I find adapted Canon glass really unwieldy even on my X-Pro2, much easier to use on the X-H1... I imagine the balance is pretty awkward on an X-E3 :lol:


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Apr 11, 2020 05:38 |  #3

EverydayGetaway wrote in post #19044000 (external link)
Awesome shots! I'm impressed; I find adapted Canon glass really unwieldy even on my X-Pro2, much easier to use on the X-H1... I imagine the balance is pretty awkward on an X-E3 :lol:

Thanks EDG. The Tamron 100400 isn't so bad since it is so light. The Canon 400/5.6 + e3 reminds me of way back when I'd adapt the same 400/5.6 to a Sony NEX-7 (it had the tri-navie which I loved but of course no AF). I think either will work fine on the X-T4 in a couple of weeks (hopefully). A canon 100-400ii should arrive today if FedEx does their job. I'll compare the Tam 100400 and the Canon100400ii when the T4 gets here and make a decision on which to keep.

Well I bought the e3 to get to know Fuji and I'm glad it will work with the longer glass but yesterday the Fuji 27mm arrived and that is the lens size of choice for the smaller camera body. I carried it on walkaround and played with Film simulations. Street type photography I know nothing about but here are some shapshots from yesterday's walkabout (the wife makes me walk everyday). We usually look for critters/birds but yesterday walked the deserted streets of a small town.

In the shots below, look for the reflection of the courthouse in the manakin's cheek :)

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May 28, 2020 19:27 |  #4

nice shots, How do you adapt canon lenses to fuji, I just got an XT3, right now Im struggling with settings for low noise, Im not liking the RAWs and find Im getting better out of jpeg. I would like to try a couple of my canon lenses on the camera.


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May 29, 2020 07:24 |  #5

aladyforty wrote in post #19070577 (external link)
nice shots, How do you adapt canon lenses to fuji, I just got an XT3, right now Im struggling with settings for low noise, Im not liking the RAWs and find Im getting better out of jpeg. I would like to try a couple of my canon lenses on the camera.

I use the Fringer II adapter (the one with an aperture ring). It really works well. I started adapting with a Sony A7r (the original) and the original Metabones adapter. It sucked. Currently on my a9 using the Sigma MC-11 and for example the 400DOii the AF acquisition and AF tracking is 99% native acting. The Fringer is almost this good; and I'd never heard of them.

So Canon has the glass and Fringer makes it possible, even enjoyable, but native is always with the edge eh...and in that I hope the rumors are true that Fuji will eventually release a 500mm DOE lens. I hope they do it before I'm dead and/or the economy here collapses.


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May 30, 2020 06:38 as a reply to  @ aladyforty's post |  #6

I just got an XT3, right now Im struggling with settings for low noise, Im not liking the RAWs and find Im getting better out of jpeg.

What are you using for a RAW processor? I find that Capture One Express for Fuji does an excellent job with retaining detail and supressing noise. Affinity Photo 1.8.x isn't too bad either, but I prefer Capture One. Also has the advantage of being free; except for the daily emails recommending you upgrade to the paid version.

Overall the Fuji Xtrans-3 series sensor is nearly an f-stop better than the Canon 7D2 at typical ISOs used for small birds.


7D2 | 80D | Fuji X-H1 | 100-400 f/4-5.6 IIL | 300 f/4 L | 70-200 f/2.8 IIL | 135 f/2 L | 85 f/1.8 | 100 f/2 | 60 f/2.8 macro | nifty-fifty | 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 | Tamron 150-600 | Fuji XF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 | Sigma 30 f/1.4 | Neewer X 25mm f/1.8 | Neewer X 32mm f/1.6

  
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May 30, 2020 07:03 as a reply to  @ MedicineMan4040's post |  #7

and in that I hope the rumors are true that Fuji will eventually release a 500mm DOE lens.

That would be nice. Or Fringer could make a Nikon to Fuji X adapter and we could go out and get the Nikon 500mm PF that is raved about.


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Aug 19, 2020 05:15 |  #8

Looks like Fringer has an engineering sample of a NF-FX adapter for Nikon glass; perhaps the hope for putting the 500mm PF on Fuji-X is closer to reality.


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Aug 23, 2020 02:33 |  #9

russbecker wrote in post #19111356 (external link)
Looks like Fringer has an engineering sample of a NF-FX adapter for Nikon glass; perhaps the hope for putting the 500mm PF on Fuji-X is closer to reality.

Too bad for me, I sold the 500PF along with a D500 to Dog Roger.
That's ok for now, the Fringer works a charm on the Canon 400DOii for now.
I am pinning my hopes on the Fuji 500 DOE though. I should be even lighter than the 500PF...well maybe a little.


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Aug 23, 2020 08:16 |  #10

MedicineMan4040 wrote in post #19113345 (external link)
Too bad for me, I sold the 500PF along with a D500 to Dog Roger.
That's ok for now, the Fringer works a charm on the Canon 400DOii for now.
I am pinning my hopes on the Fuji 500 DOE though. I should be even lighter than the 500PF...well maybe a little.

Robert, my fingers are crossed with you on this one, a Fuji 500 DOE will be killer, and would maybe convince me to leave my Nikon 500PF, but if the Fringer adapter works well, I may just stick w/ the 500PF.

The trouble is, the D500 is still around... I read that people have AF issues w/ it, but I find that weird because it's the most accurate of any non-1DX2 DSLR I've ever used, it never misses. How are you finding the X-T4 AF in comparison to the D500 for birds?




  
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Aug 23, 2020 20:49 as a reply to  @ MatthewK's post |  #11

Matt thanks. The XT4 is no D500 but I wouldn't hesitate to do a bierding trip for BIF with it.
Truthfully it's not that far behind the D500. In numbers, given a day with exact same conditions and scenarios
I'd probably bank 90-95% keepers with the D500 and 80-85% with the X-T4.

The D500 is such a special case. It is the only DSLR I ever used extensively (and I shot 7Dii and 1DXii as well for long
periods) that can equal if not beat the a9....so me believing the X-T4 can get within 10-15% of the D500 tells me
that Fuji has come a long long way....based on what I've read with previous gens I didn't own.

I'd guess the XT5 will come out along with the 500 DOE and by then the margin will be even smaller, and I hope Fuji
addresses the raw buffer gripe I have with the XT4 and fixes it on the XT5.

That and me thinking, since for a cropper, the DOE should be even a bit lighter than even the 500PF. Hope so anyway.

Yes, if Sony announced a 500/4 and same day Fuji announced 500 DOE, I'd pre order the Fuji.

On Fringer, quite a remarkable adapter. I go way way back to original Metabones on A7Rii....it sucked. I had every gen since then
and they all were subpar.
The Sigma MC-11 blew me away with the 400DOii 99% native ability on the a9.
And this shot on the XT4 with the 400DOii (first day out trying) via Fringer tells me the 500PF will work a charm=my faith in Fringer

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But native is always preferred eh, and this shot sold me on the X-T4 (using the Fuji 100-400). One of the few shots I've framed and put on the wall-
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Dec 08, 2020 21:35 |  #12

Well, this gives me something to work with. I had been thinking about changing platforms just because of the lens, But what you're doing with the adapter is great.




  
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Dec 20, 2020 19:01 |  #13

russbecker wrote in post #19071194 (external link)
What are you using for a RAW processor? I find that Capture One Express for Fuji does an excellent job with retaining detail and supressing noise. Affinity Photo 1.8.x isn't too bad either, but I prefer Capture One. Also has the advantage of being free; except for the daily emails recommending you upgrade to the paid version.

Overall the Fuji Xtrans-3 series sensor is nearly an f-stop better than the Canon 7D2 at typical ISOs used for small birds.

I moved from a Canon 7D about a year ago to Fuji as well. I also switched from Adobe and Camera Raw to Capture One right around the same time. I have been very happy with the sharpness and lack of noise all the way up to ISO 3200. Perhaps even higher, but I rarely need to do that.

I think noise control is partly due to Capture One because I have been seeing nice results from the Mavic II drone as well.

I recently switched from an X-T30 to the new X-S10 and have been very happy. Same sensor, and even lower ISO is possible because of the IBIS. Now if i can just keep people from moving :-) And for an ex-Canon DSLR user, the X-S10 grip and shutter button is quite familiar.

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Dec 25, 2020 07:34 |  #14

mikeporterinmd wrote in post #19169645 (external link)
I moved from a Canon 7D about a year ago to Fuji as well. I also switched from Adobe and Camera Raw to Capture One right around the same time. I have been very happy with the sharpness and lack of noise all the way up to ISO 3200. Perhaps even higher, but I rarely need to do that.

Mike

I find that I no longer use my two surviving Canon bodes, 7D2 and 80D, as the X-H1 will beat either of them for everything, except the tradeoff between an OVF and an EVF. The only Fuji lenses I have are the XF 100-400 and the Fuji 1.4X and Fuji 2X extenders. My standard walking around birding rig is the X-H1 with the XF 100-400 + Fuji 1.4X; that is nearly a pound lighter than my 7D2 plus Canon 100-400 Mk2 + 1.4X extender. You will notice this.

The Canon lense will focus faster than the Fuji, and has less tendency to lock up on the background (at least in the case of the Canon 100-400 you can twist the manual focus ring, the Fuji is focus-by-wire and the fastest move is to point it at the ground and focus to get off the far background). With the 1.4X extender there is little difference optically between the two systems.

Recently I have been experimenting with what can by done with either of the lenses at 800mm and f/11. With the Fuji, you are just as well off using the 1.4X extender to get to 560mm and cropping; with the Canon 100-400 Mk2 this is a different story, there is additional detail available, even two f-stops past DLA, when used with the X-H1 -- but you have to absolutely nail the focus. Depth of field is really narrow, even at f/11. Best results occur when you are sitting, at least for me.


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This is at 800mm at f/11, about 2/3s of the entire frame (13.2Mp). Canon 100-400 Mk2 plus Fringer Pro Adapter plus Fuji 2X extender. Focus is surprisingly quick in good light, and the lens IS does a good job of stabilizing the VF.


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This is a 100 per cent crop of the eye region of Mrs Northern Cardinal.

Given that f/11 is at least two f-stops pas DLA for the 24Mp X-Trans 3 sensor, there is nothing to be gained by stopping down, except losing more light.

7D2 | 80D | Fuji X-H1 | 100-400 f/4-5.6 IIL | 300 f/4 L | 70-200 f/2.8 IIL | 135 f/2 L | 85 f/1.8 | 100 f/2 | 60 f/2.8 macro | nifty-fifty | 10-22 f/3.5-4.5 | Tamron 150-600 | Fuji XF 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 | Sigma 30 f/1.4 | Neewer X 25mm f/1.8 | Neewer X 32mm f/1.6

  
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