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Jan 09, 2021 11:30 |  #1291

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I guess it would be for wildlife and bird folks, but I have never shot wildlife or birds and have no interest at all outside my own pets on rare occasion and I can live without it for that.

Based on the thread, I'm 100% convinced that if you don't shoot birds, you don't need an R5. That's the main reason I've decided to get an R6, maybe. Based on the thread over there, that's all it's good for. :lol:

The R6 and R5 both share the same IBIS, Auto-focus and Eye tracking systems, so your comment doesn't really make sense to me. The big differences between the R5 and R6 are:

1 Sensor Size. The R6 has the smaller 20MP unit based on that in the EOS 1DIII, while the R5 has a new 45MP sensor. This distinction has two implications: the smaller pixel count means larger pixels in the R6, so according to the reports I have read it has about 0.5-1 EV improvement of DR over the R5. On the other hand, the 50% greater pixel count of the R5 makes is suitable for situations where significant cropping might be desirable, or for resolution of very fine detail such as landscapes or situations where very extremely large, very high quality prints are going to be generated - perhaps studio or fashion photography.

2. Video.
The video capabilities of the R6 are impressive but they don't include 8k, which the R5 does. While perhaps a niche market currently, the trend is towards more and more video resolution, so this is maturing market.

3. File Size. Logically leads on from sensor size and video output. The smaller sensor of the R6 is more agile in saving and transmitting images, which is why it is in the EOS 1DIII, a camera favoured by sport and journalistic photographers. The fact that the R5 takes 8k video has demanded that its throughput of the significantly bigger files be higher. This results in the inclusion of the Express CF as well as the SD card in the R5, while the R6 has (for still photographers) the much more convenient and cheaper dual SD cards.

4. Weather Sealing. The R5 has enhanced weather sealing over the R6, so it is intended more for the rigors of professional shooters over enthusiasts who have a choice not to shoot in less than optimal conditions, less so a pro.

5. Cost. Of course, one of the biggest differences is price... The R6 is a great enthusiasts camera, or a backup unit for professionals who want the extra features of the R5.

In conclusion, both the R5 and R6 have similar capabilities in focusing and tracking, but the R6 is more of a photographer's camera and less a videographers, compared to the R5's 8k video capabilities.


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Jan 09, 2021 11:43 as a reply to  @ Tronhard's post |  #1292

Apparently the joke went right over your head. :)

I am extremely familiar with the features of both cameras. Thank for the 411 though.




  
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Jan 09, 2021 12:15 |  #1293

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #19179043 (external link)
Apparently the joke went right over your head. :)

I am extremely familiar with the features of both cameras. Thank for the 411 though.

Apparently it did, and may have done for others too who may not be familiar with the cameras or your sense of humour. I'm not sure what a 411 is. -?


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Jan 09, 2021 12:28 |  #1294

Tronhard wrote in post #19179053 (external link)
Apparently it did, and may have done for others too who may not be familiar with the cameras or your sense of humour. I'm not sure what a 411 is. -?

I think it is 018 for you. You dial 411 for directory assistance in the USA.




  
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Jan 09, 2021 12:46 |  #1295

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I think it is 018 for you. You dial 411 for directory assistance in the USA.

OK... Some cultural disorientation going on here. Not to worry.


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Jan 09, 2021 12:49 |  #1296

Haha forgot about 411 for "Info"...:-P

I chose the R6 because I did not want to deal with HUGE files on my 2016 touch bar and of course the cost of the CFexpress cards. Not to mention the $1400 savings here in the US.


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Jan 09, 2021 13:04 |  #1297

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #19178961 (external link)
I guess it would be for wildlife and bird folks, but I have never shot wildlife or birds and have no interest at all outside my own pets on rare occasion and I can live without it for that.

Explained: Animal eye auto focus is great. If you don't shoot wildlife, it's great to have, but not a selling point. Human eye focus matters way more to the mass market of camera users.

Based on the thread, I'm 100% convinced that if you don't shoot birds, you don't need an R5. That's the main reason I've decided to get an R6, maybe. Based on the thread over there, that's all it's good for. :lol:

Explained: This was the joke. $4000 worth of camera in the US and virtually every shot in the R5 thread is of a bird. Hence the joke that if you're not shooting birds, you don't need an R5. I guess you had to follow those threads to get that.




  
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Jan 09, 2021 13:47 as a reply to  @ WilsonFlyer's post |  #1298

Ah.. Now that I have that context, it makes sense! :lol:

As you surmised, I never went to the R5 thread and just took you at your (serious) word! Oops...

Well, I mean the R5 is an awesome camera at bird photography, but I am a bit surprised that there are not some landscape shots showing heavy cropping, just to show off those extra MP.


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Jan 09, 2021 14:15 |  #1299

Went out yesterday for a walk in the park. Shot some birds with the 300/4L and a Kenko 1.4xTC, wanting to know what the results would be. So I come home and realise I had been shooting in crop mode. A left over from the night before and I had forgotten to turn it back to full mode. :rolleyes: Not that it matters, there wasn't much to shoot anyway. Except a couple of Egyptian geese. As I was kneeling down one of them became very curious and came way too close to fit into the frame. Which was lucky, shooting in crop mode and all...  :p

Results with the Kenko 1.4xTC weren't too bad, but not as good as I had expected. I probably need to get me the EF 1.4 III but to be buying that now, after switching to the RF mount, I don't know, seems like a waste of money. I'm thinking of trying the hack where you file off the innards of a cheap EF-EOS R mount adapter so the RF extenders fit. Seems to work well.

Anyway, the nosy, backlit bird. In crop mode but uncropped by me.


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Jan 09, 2021 15:15 |  #1300

Tronhard wrote in post #19179087 (external link)
Ah.. Now that I have that context, it makes sense! :lol:

As you surmised, I never went to the R5 thread and just took you at your (serious) word! Oops...

Well, I mean the R5 is an awesome camera at bird photography, but I am a bit surprised that there are not some landscape shots showing heavy cropping, just to show off those extra MP.


All the best Landscapes shots remain in the 5D4 thread near as I can tell :)


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Jan 09, 2021 15:33 |  #1301

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All the best Landscapes shots remain in the 5D4 thread near as I can tell :)

I should confuse things even more by offering shots with my 53MB 5DsR! :-D


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Jan 09, 2021 16:58 |  #1302

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Jan 09, 2021 17:02 |  #1303

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Went out yesterday for a walk in the park. Shot some birds with the 300/4L and a Kenko 1.4xTC, wanting to know what the results would be. So I come home and realise I had been shooting in crop mode. A left over from the night before and I had forgotten to turn it back to full mode. :rolleyes: Not that it matters, there wasn't much to shoot anyway. Except a couple of Egyptian geese. As I was kneeling down one of them became very curious and came way too close to fit into the frame. Which was lucky, shooting in crop mode and all...  :p

Results with the Kenko 1.4xTC weren't too bad, but not as good as I had expected. I probably need to get me the EF 1.4 III but to be buying that now, after switching to the RF mount, I don't know, seems like a waste of money. I'm thinking of trying the hack where you file off the innards of a cheap EF-EOS R mount adapter so the RF extenders fit. Seems to work well.

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Jan 09, 2021 17:16 |  #1304

So as someone who swapped over from an A7III, I can confidently say the R6 can easily match the Sony in terms of DR and I don't feel any difference when editing the files in terms of DR/Shadow recovery. For example the image below is at ISO 100 and only adjusted in LR and not much usual full edit in PS.

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I was really impressed with the tiny amount of noise from such a large push which I usually wouldn't do, but wanted to as a test.

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Jan 09, 2021 20:29 |  #1305

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So as someone who swapped over from an A7III, I can confidently say the R6 can easily match the Sony in terms of DR and I don't feel any difference when editing the files in terms of DR/Shadow recovery. For example the image below is at ISO 100 and only adjusted in LR and not much usual full edit in PS.

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I was really impressed with the tiny amount of noise from such a large push which I usually wouldn't do, but wanted to as a test.

It's amazing how much exposure latitude we have now...


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