Sony Lounge Thread MKIII (All Sony cameras welcome)

Eddie wrote in post #19229539
Keep in mind they have zero facts about this camera and have made a video off the back of a rumour

Just click bate at this point in time

mystik610 wrote in post #19229479
Nice! RE work?

Shooting for the landscape architect again after taking last year off...well, being forced to take last year off. Going back to capture more cool images of his work for his portfolio.


I went wandering in the weeds a bit this afternoon...because this Clematis is blooming again...it belongs to my neighbor, and now that I know what it is, I will be planting some next spring. the 24-70 is well suited to this sort of thing.

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Bianchi wrote in post #19229605
Yepp, just depends what the final spec's come to be, defiantly no rangefinder body, especially if you plan to use the 200-600 with it.

Not planning to get the 200-600: way too big for me. When I was still shooting Canon DSLR, the size/weight of the 70-300L sometimes dissuaded me from going out. I've toughened up some since then, but I can't see myself lugging the 200-600 (if I could even shoot with it for very long, which I'm not sure at all).

I am way past due for a PC upgrade. I was originally thinking of building my own, but I’m getting drawn to the idea of a m1 mac mini for a few reasons: 1. I’m sarting to lean towards picking Final Cut Pro to be my video editing choice, so that necessitates a mac. 2. I love how minimal the mac minis are: sleek, small, ultra-quiet, and ultra low power consuming. 3. The m1 processor is impressively powerful compared to intel and amd processors.

That said, there are some drawbacks. The m1 version of Photoshop doesn’t (yet) support any third party plugins, so I’d have to run PS in a pre-m1 version. And Apple is just getting started rolling out the m1 to all their computers; I’d hate to commit to a 16GB m1 mac mini when they might roll out a more powerful 32GB m1x mac (mini or imac or mbp, etc.) later this year.

Thoughts and recommendations? I can be patient, but confess my patience has begun wearing thinner of late - at some point we just have to poop or get off the pot.

David Arbogast wrote in post #19229672
I am way past due for a PC upgrade. I was originally thinking of building my own, but I’m getting drawn to the idea of a m1 mac mini for a few reasons: 1. I’m sarting to lean towards picking Final Cut Pro to be my video editing choice, so that necessitates a mac. 2. I love how minimal the mac minis are: sleek, small, ultra-quiet, and ultra low power consuming. 3. The m1 processor is impressively powerful compared to intel and amd processors.

That said, there are some drawbacks. The m1 version of Photoshop doesn’t (yet) support any third party plugins, so I’d have to run PS in a pre-m1 version. And Apple is just getting started rolling out the m1 to all their computers; I’d hate to commit to a 16GB m1 mac mini when they might roll out a more powerful 32GB m1x mac (mini or imac or mbp, etc.) later this year.

Thoughts and recommendations? I can be patient, but confess my patience has begun wearing thinner of late - at some point we just have to poop or get off the pot.

I went through the whole thought process a bit ago David (pre M1). I was editing on my MacBook Pro for years but a combination of the small 15” screen and the fact it struggled with 4K footage edits I decided to upgrade. By that point I was into the iOS ecosystem (I don’t mind being locked into Apple as I feel more goes wrong on PC cos I can tinker with things) so was initially going to get a 5k iMac. The inability to upgrade the RAM was the main concern so I started looking at the Mac mini. The main concern there was my lack of knowledge on egpus so I ended up building a high spec Intel desktop with a nice BenQ monitor. Having said all that, it would be a tougher decision now with the M1 chips. I like the new iMacs but not keen on the colour options but again a thought needs to be had about the RAM upgrade ability (from memory you can change the ram in the iMac). In terms of longevity my MacBook Pro 2015 still runs light room and photoshop as fast as my new PC pretty much so I don’t think you would have an issue with speed with a M1 iMac or Mac mini for many years to come if you can get a good base line RAM amount.

Sorry that probably wasn’t much use now that I’ve read it back but that was my thought process. The fact my 2018 iPad Pro non-M1 can handle 4K edits no problem at all makes me think the new M1 machines would be absolute beasts

Eddie wrote in post #19229680
I went through the whole thought process a bit ago David (pre M1). I was editing on my MacBook Pro for years but a combination of the small 15” screen and the fact it struggled with 4K footage edits I decided to upgrade. By that point I was into the iOS ecosystem (I don’t mind being locked into Apple as I feel more goes wrong on PC cos I can tinker with things) so was initially going to get a 5k iMac. The inability to upgrade the RAM was the main concern so I started looking at the Mac mini. The main concern there was my lack of knowledge on egpus so I ended up building a high spec Intel desktop with a nice BenQ monitor. Having said all that, it would be a tougher decision now with the M1 chips. I like the new iMacs but not keen on the colour options but again a thought needs to be had about the RAM upgrade ability (from memory you can change the ram in the iMac). In terms of longevity my MacBook Pro 2015 still runs light room and photoshop as fast as my new PC pretty much so I don’t think you would have an issue with speed with a M1 iMac or Mac mini for many years to come if you can get a good base line RAM amount.

Sorry that probably wasn’t much use now that I’ve read it back but that was my thought process. The fact my 2018 iPad Pro non-M1 can handle 4K edits no problem at all makes me think the new M1 machines would be absolute beasts

Thanks for your thoughts Eddie.

One thing I forgot to mention in favor of the m1 mac mini is availability. I’ve looked at some windows based options (including building a pc) and nothing I want is in stock. Side note: who knows when I’m ever going to find pair of xbox series x in stock!

The m1 mac mini is surprisingly affordable for all its power…if I buy one and find it doesn’t meet my expectations I can move on to something else and work out a different use for the mac mini. But, I think you’re right - it’s going to have the power I need.

16GB is the max, and that’s questionable, but Ii think the m1 macs have a unified memory system works super-efficiently with the SSD when overloaded. Theoretically that could shorten the life of the SSD, but that concern is mitigated by the fact that it’s a very affordable computer.

Above it all I need a new desk - my wife took over mine. And I need a great monitor…perhaps a BenQ.

David Arbogast wrote in post #19229692
Thanks for your thoughts Eddie.

One thing I forgot to mention in favor of the m1 mac mini is availability. I’ve looked at some windows based options (including building a pc) and nothing I want is in stock. Side note: who knows when I’m ever going to find pair of xbox series x in stock!

The m1 mac mini is surprisingly affordable for all its power…if I buy one and find it doesn’t meet my expectations I can move on to something else and work out a different use for the mac mini. But, I think you’re right - it’s going to have the power I need.

16GB is the max, and that’s questionable, but Ii think the m1 macs have a unified memory system works super-efficiently with the SSD when overloaded. Theoretically that could shorten the life of the SSD, but that concern is mitigated by the fact that it’s a very affordable computer.

Above it all I need a new desk - my wife took over mine. And I need a great monitor…perhaps a BenQ.

Having the same issue with the PS5. Not willing to pay the inflated prices all the re-sellers are charging on eBay so decided to stick with my PS4 until the 5 is more readily available

David Arbogast wrote in post #19229692
Thanks for your thoughts Eddie.

One thing I forgot to mention in favor of the m1 mac mini is availability. I’ve looked at some windows based options (including building a pc) and nothing I want is in stock. Side note: who knows when I’m ever going to find pair of xbox series x in stock!

The m1 mac mini is surprisingly affordable for all its power…if I buy one and find it doesn’t meet my expectations I can move on to something else and work out a different use for the mac mini. But, I think you’re right - it’s going to have the power I need.

16GB is the max, and that’s questionable, but Ii think the m1 macs have a unified memory system works super-efficiently with the SSD when overloaded. Theoretically that could shorten the life of the SSD, but that concern is mitigated by the fact that it’s a very affordable computer.

Above it all I need a new desk - my wife took over mine. And I need a great monitor…perhaps a BenQ.

I have the last gen intel mac mini. If, like most photographers, you're using large capacity HDDs to store files, prepare for a world of pain with bluetooth issues. It's an issue with the M1 mac mini's too...usb ports are not adequately shielded so HDDs interfere with the bluetooth signal. So I'm using wired connections on my keyboard, mouse, and external speaker.

Another thing with apple m1 is that there is no support dedicated gpu support...adobe, c1, Nik all support hardware acceleration via gpu and it really speeds up processing time. I have my intel mac mini hooked up to a 3700xt via thunderbolt 3 egpu, but this isn't an option with the M1.

On my a7riv when I upload the pic to my PC not all are uploaded to play memories

David Arbogast wrote in post #19229692
Thanks for your thoughts Eddie.

One thing I forgot to mention in favor of the m1 mac mini is availability. I’ve looked at some windows based options (including building a pc) and nothing I want is in stock. Side note: who knows when I’m ever going to find pair of xbox series x in stock!

The m1 mac mini is surprisingly affordable for all its power…if I buy one and find it doesn’t meet my expectations I can move on to something else and work out a different use for the mac mini. But, I think you’re right - it’s going to have the power I need.

16GB is the max, and that’s questionable, but Ii think the m1 macs have a unified memory system works super-efficiently with the SSD when overloaded. Theoretically that could shorten the life of the SSD, but that concern is mitigated by the fact that it’s a very affordable computer.

Above it all I need a new desk - my wife took over mine. And I need a great monitor…perhaps a BenQ.

I can't speak to the issues raised by mystik, but I'd have to ask if you really need 32gb? Granted, I don't personally do video, but according to Sara Dietschy's review (and some others I've seen) of the m1 Apples is that they're more than capable of handling 4k video workloads (Sara Dietschy in particular uses the a7SIII), and that much more smoothly/easily than the last-gen Intel macbooks. Don't know how that would compare with your current rig, but it might be worth looking into that review. (She does some of her testing on Final Cut Pro as well.)

navydoc wrote in post #19228746
It's funny how the older one gets, the more reflective one is about the past.

On this note, 45 yrs ago tomorrow, this photo was taken. Not sure by who but we were leaving our wedding reception. Some say she was carrying the hot rollers for me.

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Bill in Texas wrote in post #19229784
On this note, 45 yrs ago tomorrow, this photo was taken. Not sure by who but we were leaving our wedding reception. Some say she was carrying the hot rollers for me.

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Great snapshot in time Bill and congrats on 45 years of marriage.

Bill in Texas wrote in post #19229784
On this note, 45 yrs ago tomorrow, this photo was taken. Not sure by who but we were leaving our wedding reception. Some say she was carrying the hot rollers for me.

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Hah really cool Bill. Congrats on 45 years.

Gene/Bill, thanks for the motivation to keep documenting

David Arbogast wrote in post #19229672
I am way past due for a PC upgrade. I was originally thinking of building my own, but I’m getting drawn to the idea of a m1 mac mini for a few reasons: 1. I’m sarting to lean towards picking Final Cut Pro to be my video editing choice, so that necessitates a mac. 2. I love how minimal the mac minis are: sleek, small, ultra-quiet, and ultra low power consuming. 3. The m1 processor is impressively powerful compared to intel and amd processors.

That said, there are some drawbacks. The m1 version of Photoshop doesn’t (yet) support any third party plugins, so I’d have to run PS in a pre-m1 version. And Apple is just getting started rolling out the m1 to all their computers; I’d hate to commit to a 16GB m1 mac mini when they might roll out a more powerful 32GB m1x mac (mini or imac or mbp, etc.) later this year.

Thoughts and recommendations? I can be patient, but confess my patience has begun wearing thinner of late - at some point we just have to poop or get off the pot.

I would definitely look at a Mac Mini. That M1 chip works really well when you have the software that was coded for the chip. More and more are coming up with updates to make it a native software for that architecture. It's easy mode instead of building your own. This comes from the guy that recently built his own. I debated hard on the M1 vs my Windows I9. Intel won this battle, but maybe not the next one. If you need a video card, the decision may be made for you already. The Mac. I used my old card, and it is now the bottleneck in my system. I am trying to get a good one, but they are so hard to come by.