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Nov 03, 2021 02:58 |  #9316

Pippan wrote in post #19302610 (external link)
Yes, bring back the horses! No fossil fuels there! Oh, but they fart methane, don't they.

It's funny, 100 years ago everyone got around on horses and only the rich could afford cars; now ...

could just go back to WW2 conversions - water burners or whatever they were called
There was one on an old farm I used to visit as a school kid in summer holidays - and not during WW2, before someone over yonder gets the Key owt for a swift turn :rolleyes:



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Nov 03, 2021 04:29 |  #9317

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Well, if that is the kind of travel that they are optimizing these things for, then I have little hope that they would work for me without any compromises on my end.

I regularly do road trips where I cover 600 to 850 miles each day. And I am not willing to change anything about each day's itinerary in order to charge some battery.

Imagine waking up in the morning at a roadside rest area, and knowing that if you really push yourself, you can get to your shooting destination - 650 miles away - just in time for the golden hour light right before sunset. But then you remember that somewhere along the way, you're going to have to stop somewhere and charge the car's battery up for an hour or two. There go an entire day's hopes and dreams, just flushed down the crapper. No hope of getting there for the beautiful golden hour light. Nope. Gonna have to wait 'till tomorrow for that photo shoot. A day lost. All because you have some silly little electric car instead of a car with a gasoline engine that never needs a break.

Will people really tolerate such a thing? Something so horribly inconvenient? Something that robs us of our precious time? I should think not. Unless it's just regular little people with regular little lives who just go round about their own little town where they live to do their monotonous little daily routine. Pathetic!

That's the thing about my hybrid Tom. It will get me about 11 or 1200 miles on a fully charged battery and 40 ltrs, 10 of your gallons, without a stop. So no stop for fuel and you could do you 650 miles there and get most of the way back as well on that. Once back home chuck it on charge over night. 10 amps at 235 volts is about 10 kWh, so not very expensive. And you are ready for another long trip the following day.

I can only agree that full electric is still a very long way form what is needed by a hell of a lot of people, but as Ray said "horses for courses"

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Nov 03, 2021 05:58 |  #9318

Pippan wrote in post #19302610 (external link)
Yes, bring back the horses! No fossil fuels there! Oh, but they fart methane, don't they.

It's funny, 100 years ago everyone got around on horses and only the rich could afford cars; now ...

What you forget, Pippan, this the UK. Posh people's hoses don't exude foul smelling gasses - just a nice countryside odour.:-)

avondale87 wrote in post #19302621 (external link)
could just go back to WW2 conversions - water burners or whatever they were called
There was one on an old farm I used to visit as a school kid in summer holidays - and not during WW2, before someone over yonder gets the Key owt for a swift turn :rolleyes:

Richard, there was a classic scene from our Dad's Army series on TV. The platoon were all out on manoeuvres in Cpl Jones' lorry and they had rigged a big gas filled bag or balloon on top to power the lorry. On an order from the pompous Capt. Mainwaring - the platoon all poked their rifles with bayonets out of slits in the top of the lorry to shoot an enemy aircraft - - - the lorry rapidly lost its fuel. :oops: It was made even more funny because you sat in front of the TV just knowing what was going to happen next, and waiting for it to happen.:lol:
In case you've never heard of it Dad's Army was an absolutely excellent, long-running, pee-taking series based on the antics of the Home Guard in WW2.

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That's the thing about my hybrid Tom. It will get me about 11 or 1200 miles on a fully charged battery and 40 ltrs, 10 of your gallons, without a stop. So no stop for fuel and you could do you 650 miles there and get most of the way back as well on that. Once back home chuck it on charge over night. 10 amps at 235 volts is about 10 kWh, so not very expensive. And you are ready for another long trip the following day.

I can only agree that full electric is still a very long way form what is needed by a hell of a lot of people, but as Ray said "horses for courses"

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I think that picture is a very good advert for electric cars, John - If I get an EV I will certainly want to tow one of them around.:-)
Is your charge time 4hrs?


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Nov 03, 2021 06:08 |  #9319

Jonzjob wrote in post #19302642 (external link)
That's the thing about my hybrid Tom. It will get me about 11 or 1200 miles on a fully charged battery and 40 ltrs, 10 of your gallons, without a stop. So no stop for fuel and you could do you 650 miles there and get most of the way back as well on that. Once back home chuck it on charge over night. 10 amps at 235 volts is about 10 kWh, so not very expensive. And you are ready for another long trip the following day.

I can only agree that full electric is still a very long way form what is needed by a hell of a lot of people, but as Ray said "horses for courses"

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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Look like a clever and potentially lucrative business idea John. No doubt you could charge (pun intended) like the proverbial wounded bull.


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Nov 03, 2021 06:11 |  #9320

Ray.Petri wrote in post #19302658 (external link)
What you forget, Pippan, this the UK. Posh people's hoses don't exude foul smelling gasses - just a nice countryside odour.:-)

And of course they wouldn't fart. They'd fluff!


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Nov 03, 2021 06:13 |  #9321

Ray.Petri wrote in post #19302658 (external link)
What you forget, Pippan, this the UK. Posh people's hoses don't exude foul smelling gasses - just a nice countryside odour.:-)

Richard, there was a classic scene from our Dad's Army series on TV. The platoon were all out on manoeuvres in Cpl Jones' lorry and they had rigged a big gas filled bag or balloon on top to power the lorry. On an order from the pompous Capt. Mainwaring - the platoon all poked their rifles with bayonets out of slits in the top of the lorry to shoot an enemy aircraft - - - the lorry rapidly lost its fuel. :oops: It was made even more funny because you sat in front of the TV just knowing what was going to happen next, and waiting for it to happen.:lol:
In case you've never heard of it Dad's Army was an absolutely excellent, long-running, pee-taking series based on the antics of the Home Guard in WW2.

I think that picture is a very good advert for electric cars, John - If I get an EV I will certainly want to tow one of them around.:-)
Is your charge time 4hrs?

Ray I loved dads army. One thing you Brits can do is humour!



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Nov 03, 2021 07:26 |  #9322

avondale87 wrote in post #19302666 (external link)
Ray I loved dads army. One thing you Brits can do is humour!

we need that sense of humour Richard, just to keep you Pohms in check :twisted:

I think the bloke who really deserves a medal is the one who sold Ello Ello to the Germans :love::love:

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Nov 03, 2021 13:48 |  #9323

After two pages of being reminded that the Dunning Kruger effect can be applied to more than just photography, can we please get this thread back on track.


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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their own ability, and that people with high ability at a task underestimate their own ability.

Well, I never knew that? -?

Anyway. Not mine, but I wouldn't mind it even if it is a Fiat rag top. In Rabat, Malta

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These were our ride for a lot of our Malta holidays. Quite comfortable too

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Nov 04, 2021 01:08 |  #9325

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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a hypothetical cognitive bias stating that people with low ability at a task overestimate their own ability, and that people with high ability at a task underestimate their own ability.

Well, I never knew that? -?

Anyway. Not mine, but I wouldn't mind it even if it is a Fiat rag top. In Rabat, Malta

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Nice picture, John. Have the roads improved out there last time you were there?
Dunning-Kruger. Hmmm! I think most of us could be diagnosed with a similar problem.:-(
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Nov 04, 2021 03:05 |  #9326

Some but not all Ray. This is another of this photographers rides. Between Ghar Lapsis and Valetta. The bus was doing about 20 mph and hitting the bottom of the springs VERY frequently!

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The driver was quite happily turning for 'several' seconds at a time and having a conversation with the grey haired woman in front of us!

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Nov 04, 2021 21:53 |  #9327

My photographers ride is a little less glamorous than others, but it's been very practical and very reliable. While not exactly exciting to drive the interior is a bit TARDIS like, bigger than it appears with lots of different configurations.
I'm also trying to sell it, I can use public transport to get to the Studio so no longer need such a large car and have replaced with some more interesting and slightly old options :)

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Nov 05, 2021 02:58 |  #9328

No good saying 'odd options' Moppie?

How's about showing us them mate?


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Nov 05, 2021 11:44 |  #9329

Last hoorah before succumbing to something electric.......probabl​y....

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