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Mar 16, 2022 05:12 |  #526

Liverpool Parish Church. Our Lady & Saint Nicholas.

I had decided to re-work my original image.
I took it back a couple of stages in PS and - Here it is - unless I (or someone else) finds something else I have overlooked - that is!:-)

The Exif data is incorrect - A Hewlett Packard flatbed scanner was used to scan this glass/transparency image.


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Mar 16, 2022 06:05 |  #527

Pippan wrote in post #19356099 (external link)
You should be able to edit the exif data.

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Ray that's not possible as far as I know. No Exif ie

Thanks for your comments lads - I don't think it is possible without giving the image false camera data - which I have done for the previous image to get it into my gallery.


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Mar 16, 2022 06:06 |  #528

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I would think doing it the way Pekka designed would be the best way. Let me know what you think!

No I do not know how to post an image with no EXIF data but I would suggest you post question in AMASS Forum Software Talk

I am sure someone there will be able to help you on that!

Thanks Charles - I've just seen your comment.


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Mar 18, 2022 02:31 |  #529

A country scene from the past.
A nicely framed picture. If only it could talk.
Lantern slide scan. Date unknown. Location unknown.
My clue (I might be way off track) is that the small boy seems to be dressed in a sailor suit - giving a possible c1880 - WW1 date. (Britannia Rules The Waves; etc):-)
Also note the smoothing of the river - indicating a slow shutter speed was used.
Looking at the rustic workshop - could it have been a 'smithy' or a farm workshop?


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Mar 18, 2022 04:56 as a reply to  @ Ray.Petri's post |  #530

What's on the walls in the shadows inside the shed?
Can you slide the shadows back Ray, dramatically, at the expense of the rest of the picture?
Also that contraption on the ground must have a meaning



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Mar 18, 2022 07:24 |  #531

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What's on the walls in the shadows inside the shed?
Can you slide the shadows back Ray, dramatically, at the expense of the rest of the picture?
Also that contraption on the ground must have a meaning

Especially for you, Richard. At the expense of ruining my reputation and the lovely idyllic country picture.:-( Oh Well! Never mind! Here goes! Be nice to get my hands on the original negative.

I couldn't extract anymore useful info from the shadows but maybe there is a sawpit inside - just looking at the planks leaning against the wall. I don't think anyone bothered about dynamic range or ISO in those days.:-) But regarding the sawpit - my wife's father had a sawpit in his big furniture factory in Ireland that must've dated back to the early 1900s. It was still there when I visited a couple of years ago.

Not sure about the contraption on the ground - on the other image I thought it may be one of those rakes with chains pulled by a pair of shire horses - but not so sure now. Maybe it was a top secret prototype navigational aid for Noah's Ark.:-)


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Mar 18, 2022 07:41 |  #532

Ray.Petri wrote in post #19357033 (external link)
Especially for you, Richard. At the expense of ruining my reputation and the lovely idyllic country picture.:-( Oh Well! Never mind! Here goes! Be nice to get my hands on the original negative.

I couldn't extract anymore useful info from the shadows but maybe there is a sawpit inside - just looking at the planks leaning against the wall. I don't think anyone bothered about dynamic range or ISO in those days.:-) But regarding the sawpit - my wife's father had a sawpit in his big furniture factory in Ireland that must've dated back to the early 1900s. It was still there when I visited a couple of years ago.

Not sure about the contraption on the ground - on the other image I thought it may be one of those rakes with chains pulled by a pair of shire horses - but not so sure now. Maybe it was a top secret prototype navigational aid for Noah's Ark.:-)

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What is a sawpit? Since your wife's father used to have one I suspect you know the answer to my question!

I like your thoughts about the contraption on the ground! LOL Don't let the CIA know your thoughts, they may have to arrest you!! <grin>


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Mar 18, 2022 08:06 |  #533

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What is a sawpit? Since your wife's father used to have one I suspect you know the answer to my question!

Before the days of the saw mills as we know them - the log/tree trunk was placed over a pit and one bloke had to get in the pit and the other on top, and with a long, double handled saw they would saw the trunk into planks. Incidentally, father-in-law even had the saws hanging up. The pit had been unused long before I came on the scene but they never filled it in.:-)
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https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Saw_pit (external link)

I like your thoughts about the contraption on the ground! LOL Don't let the CIA know your thoughts, they may have to arrest you!! <grin>

Ah Yes, Charles - Boris might transport me to the colonies, or the dreaded Gestapo or KGB might get me - but even I don't know the secret location.:-)


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Mar 18, 2022 08:21 |  #534

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Ray,

What is a sawpit? Since your wife's father used to have one I suspect you know the answer to my question!

Before the days of the saw mills as we know them - the log/tree trunk was placed over a pit and one bloke had to get in the pit and the other on top, and with a long, double handled saw they would saw the trunk into planks. Incidentally, father-in-law even had the saws hanging up. The pit had been unused long before I came on the scene but they never filled it in.:-)
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https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Saw_pit (external link)

I like your thoughts about the contraption on the ground! LOL Don't let the CIA know your thoughts, they may have to arrest you!! <grin>

Ah Yes, Charles - Boris might transport me to the colonies, or the dreaded Gestapo or KGB might get me - but even I don't know the secret location.:-)

Thank you for the wiki link! That was very helpful! Oh the Gestapo or KGB those people are far worse than our CIA!! They have ways of torturing people so badly.....the fear in their eyes!


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Mar 18, 2022 08:30 |  #535

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I like your thoughts about the contraption on the ground! LOL Don't let the CIA know your thoughts, they may have to arrest you!! <grin>

Re my thoughts on the contraption on the ground, if you look at the second picture in the above Wiki link I might have been correct, the guy is using a similar contraption on his shire horses to pull a tree trunk.


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Especially for you, Richard. At the expense of ruining my reputation and the lovely idyllic country picture.:-( Oh Well! Never mind! Here goes! Be nice to get my hands on the original negative.

I couldn't extract anymore useful info from the shadows but maybe there is a sawpit inside - just looking at the planks leaning against the wall. I don't think anyone bothered about dynamic range or ISO in those days.:-) But regarding the sawpit - my wife's father had a sawpit in his big furniture factory in Ireland that must've dated back to the early 1900s. It was still there when I visited a couple of years ago.

Not sure about the contraption on the ground - on the other image I thought it may be one of those rakes with chains pulled by a pair of shire horses - but not so sure now. Maybe it was a top secret prototype navigational aid for Noah's Ark.:-)

Thanks Ray. Saw pits would have been quite common. They were certainly used here.

Sometimes it's easier to just go back and take the photo again.  :p



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Thanks Ray. Saw pits would have been quite common. They were certainly used here.

Sometimes it's easier to just go back and take the photo again.  :p

OK Richard, I have just re-photographed the original transparently but couldn’t get anymore shadow detail.
Incidentally, I have seen massive circular saws powered by traction engines and probably you have too.


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OK Richard, I have just re-photographed the original transparently but couldn’t get anymore shadow detail.
Incidentally, I have seen massive circular saws powered by traction engines and probably you have too.

Haven't seen one in the flesh, but have in photos.
Saws driven from the PTO (power take off) on tractors were not uncommon here.

I was referring to just taking your camera out and redo the shot! :rolleyes: :p
Sorry Ray, just woke up all bright and chirpy :-P



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Mar 18, 2022 17:26 |  #539

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Haven't seen one in the flesh, but have in photos.
Saws driven from the PTO (power take off) on tractors were not uncommon here.

I was referring to just taking your camera out and redo the shot! :rolleyes: :p
Sorry Ray, just woke up all bright and chirpy :-P

That’s OK Richard, I knew what you were referring to.:-)
Yes the PTO for the traction engine was a big belt - no jumped-up little Elf’n’safety blokes around then to spoil our fun.:-)
Well, you’re just arising and me just thinking about going to bed.


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Mar 23, 2022 03:25 |  #540

Tug. Nautical subject.
From a glass lantern slide. More questions than answers on this one!
A challenge for the cameras of that period - slow plates - unpredictable ISO - camera bobbing about on a boat whilst taking a picture of another boat bobbing about. (Today no problem - ISO 800 - 1/1000 sec. - f5.6)
The camera could have been a Brownie Box.:-)
Not sure of date but scanned from a group of slides taken c1900-30'ish in the Liverpool area. The tug might have been used to tow the Grand Fleet out of harbour - we might never know - feel free to weave your own story around it.:-)
My only guess is it could be on the River Mersey.


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