Canon EOS R7 pre-sales discussion, hypothesizing, and prognosticating

I bet it takes good pictures, and that's all I care about.

John Sheehy wrote in post #19391161
Can't you see how horrible this would be with ANY camera body?

Hey, watch it, bub! My iPhone 8 can do a better job and you just insulted it !!!

umphotography wrote in post #19391097
Found these on the net

25000 ISO files on the R7.....Not usable for serious results in my opinion

here is the link

Im going to hold off placing an order until we can see raws. 6400 might be tough

https://www.photograph​yblog.com/previews/can​on_eos_r7_photos

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I don't know who these "testers" are and have no idea what they thought they were doing, but this is ridiculous. All of the images are taken at extremely high ISO speeds and all in this horribly lit place. The only low(er) ISO images are text. If they deliberately set out to really show bad images from this camera, they could not have done a better job.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19391245
I don't know who these "testers" are and have no idea what they thought they were doing, but this is ridiculous. All of the images are taken at extremely high ISO speeds and all in this horribly lit place. The only low(er) ISO images are text. If they deliberately set out to really show bad images from this camera, they could not have done a better job.

Yes I agree the light looks pretty bad. But I have been in a few HS gyms and attended a few concerts where its AS BAD AS THIS LIGHTING and the images on a full frame sensor were not THIS BAD...... As I said...i need to see more files at 6400-12800 in decent light to see whats up. 150-600's your going to go to 6.3 and the 100-500 your going to go to 7.1.....the F/11's, along with the variables that have reach, will need clean ISO @6400..end of discussion....too soon to draw any conclusions but you are right......this is really bad at these ISO's.

I think fixed lens...F/2.8 and F/4 are not going to be a problem....2 more stops on a variable might be....need to see more files from experienced photographers in the field...I wont be the first one out o the gate thats for sure...I would like to have a clean crop

Peter2516 wrote in post #19391098
https://youtu.be/Y3GB2​5sguH8 this guy talks about RAW. For those who are interested.

That guy has some of the most incoherent ramblings I've ever tried to listen to.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19391245
I don't know who these "testers" are and have no idea what they thought they were doing, but this is ridiculous. All of the images are taken at extremely high ISO speeds and all in this horribly lit place. The only low(er) ISO images are text. If they deliberately set out to really show bad images from this camera, they could not have done a better job.

They seem to be doing a good job of trying to put this camera down before we can get our grubby little hands on it. There were pages of similar, or worse, comments on the R5 before it was released, but since it has gotten itself into the field I seem to be only seeing excellent pictures and hearing users singing it’s praise.
But I waited for the R7 and I am sure that the picture quality will on a par with the best of them! (Hopefully). I am just disappointed that GPS doesn’t feature and weather sealing isn’t so good. I was expecting it to be priced around £2k. But it is almost priced as a disposable item, costing less than the 7D II when it came out.
Anyway, do I often use ISOs above 1600? No! - probably an old habit dating back to film days. But it would be nice not to have to worry too much about high ISO noise.

It is priced $300 below the 7D2, and there are several other missing items with the R7, to keep that lower price, and isn't really a replacement for the 7D2 in the truest sense.

If you just need resolution and the AF and burst rates this has, then great, and this will exceed what the 7D2 can do. However this is more of a 90D MKII IMO, with its resolution and the R series AF and burst rates, and a price to match, $300 more than the 90D.

If you wanted to somehow try to compare to the DSLR-era bodies anyways...

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19391287
It is priced $300 below the 7D2, and there are several other missing items with the R7, to keep that lower price, and isn't really a replacement for the 7D2 in the truest sense.

If you just need resolution and the AF and burst rates this has, then great, and this will exceed what the 7D2 can do. However this is more of a 90D MKII IMO, with its resolution and the R series AF and burst rates, and a price to match, $300 more than the 90D.

If you wanted to somehow try to compare to the DSLR-era bodies anyways...

I am sure you are right, I do realise the differences to the 7D II as I stated - but I doubt that I will get rid of my 7DII. If I am not happy with it I will wait for the R7II or whatever, or go for the R5II.

Photography is all about light so I wouldn’t judge this, or any camera, based on a badly underexposed photo. I think that shot would be bad with any body. I’m certainly interested, but if it’s not useable at 12800 and a pretty clean 6400 I’ll probably pass simply because I’ll likely use this with my 800 or my 100-400.

I probably still would have pre-ordered if I could have gotten it a bit sooner but now I may as well wait a bit

Looking forward to some more samples. I think it will end up being very good

JayLT wrote in post #19391282
That guy has some of the most incoherent ramblings I've ever tried to listen to.

His delivery could do with some polishing. A lot of polishing.
I liked his message though.

Anyone in line for an R7 should go to any site or youtuber showing poor R7 RAWs and like, or post your agreement at how bad the files look.
Any cancelled orders just move you up the queue.

Choderboy wrote in post #19391341
Anyone in line for an R7 should go to any site or youtuber showing poor R7 RAWs and like, or post your agreement at how bad the files look.
Any cancelled orders just move you up the queue.

Brilliant !

User manual is live!

I think this is either a global or Asian site.

https://cam.start.cano​n/en/C005/

https://cam.start.cano​n/en/C005/manual/c005.​pdf

Looks like it saves the final image as well as the individual shots when doing focus bracketing.

You can do that with a 14yr old EOS 40D. A necessary, but not sufficient, requirement.