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Jun 27, 2022 09:57 |  #301

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19396779 (external link)
So IBIS is only for video, wow, or is there another setting for it? I am going to look at the online manual

"Digital IS" is only for video. IBIS can be used with either stills or video.

IBIS does not improve the motion axes that your lens OIS corrects (pitch and yaw); it adds X/Y and roll correction, which are not really issues at all shooting distant subjects while seated or standing on firm ground (X/Y), and the shutter speed is high (roll).

You need so little correction in these axes with distant bird photography that any error that they make is probably a net negative. IME, it seems that more X/Yl IBIS error occurs with EF lenses than with RF lenses. Now, if you really needed corrections in those axes, like shooting macro or near-macro at low shutter speeds, then they might be 95% help and 5% error, making them totally worthwhile.




  
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Jun 27, 2022 10:05 |  #302

Anybody have both a 90D and R7 and can take nearly identical content and exposure shots between the two, then provide their evaluation of how the two compare? I know birds don't really care about posing long enough for that, but perhaps some other static creature? A zoo is usually a great place for those kinds of tests. :)


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Jun 27, 2022 10:50 |  #303

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Anybody have both a 90D and R7 and can take nearly identical content and exposure shots between the two, then provide their evaluation of how the two compare? I know birds don't really care about posing long enough for that, but perhaps some other static creature? A zoo is usually a great place for those kinds of tests. :)

A fake bird with real feathers or a fake furry critter can do the job, too. It helps to add more noise "stress" by using a challenging-spectrum light source, with weak red or blue content, like many real-world photography locations (outdoor shade or warm-colored lights).




  
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Jun 27, 2022 11:32 |  #304

We have seen photos from RF 100-500 & and EF 100-400

here are some RF 100-400 photos https://www.dpreview.c​om/forums/post/6627545​7 (external link)




  
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Jun 27, 2022 11:40 |  #305

John Sheehy wrote in post #19396882 (external link)
A fake bird with real feathers or a fake furry critter can do the job, too. It helps to add more noise "stress" by using a challenging-spectrum light source, with weak red or blue content, like many real-world photography locations (outdoor shade or warm-colored lights).

And I'm sure the camera will do just fine. It will be as good as, or better than, existing cameras. I'm sure Canon engineers know what they are doing.




  
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Jun 27, 2022 13:16 |  #306

OK 24 hours of using the R7 so far, most of yesterday was setting it up with some BIF in the evening.
This morning I started at 6 am at the pond and from 8 am till now I was in my garden with birds and chipmunks.

My biggest take away so far is the small size of the camera, the depth of the grip is good BUT the height of the camera for someone with size XL hands is bad. I thought the 90D was a bit small this one is elf like. If you have small to medium hands it is fine. I keep hitting the on/off switch as it sticks out thinking I am hitting the AF-ON and that is with my pinky below the camera. I can use the 1st knuckle on my thumb to hit is but often that knuckle is above the button on the top edge of the camera. If I put two fingers below the camera then the AF-ON button is easy to use but holding the camera with my middle finger is not very stable and awkard, maybe it is Canon giving us the middle finger, also the shutter button when hold the camera with one finger is awkward.
a bettery grip or any kind of grip to extend the body of the camera would be a huge help.

The AF is impressive and I may keep the R7 when I return the rental (I bought one as they only had one left when I was renting the R7 and when I return the rental I have to option to keep or return the NIB one.

I have recharged the new battery twice and am using one of the EP6N batteries right now, that was with about 2,000 shots.

Burst - even at 10% left on the battery I didn't notice any slow down in either the electronic or mechanical shutter rate.

RAW Electronic shutter
"H+" 30 FPS you get about 1 second in a burst
H 15 FPOS you get about 3 seconds

RAW Mechanical
15 FPS you get about 2-3 seconds in a burst
7 FPS you get about 8 seconds in a burst

C-RAW Electronic
“H+” 30 FPS get a 2.5 second burst
“H” 15 FPS get a 7 second burst then continues about 3 fps

C-RAW Mechanical
“H+” 15 FPS 4 seconds in a burst
"H" 7 FPS 17-18 seconds in a burst


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Jun 27, 2022 13:38 |  #307

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Jun 27, 2022 13:50 |  #308

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I’m guessing we both got the same deal via a Cpricewatch. I have same expected delivery date, but things sometimes sit at customs (my R6 was delayed by almost a week) and with the holiday weekend I’m not holing my breath…


I just got an update expected delivery today. Wow. Hope you too.


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Jun 27, 2022 14:01 |  #309

So FEDEX just dropped off my RF600 rental. I have it for a week and the RF800 should be here tomorrow. Of course it is pouring rain right now but I shot a Cardinal out my open den window at my bird feeder, it is about 15 feet away, just past the minimum focus distance.

ISO 6400 !!

The first shot is the "raw" JPG and the second is the RAW processed in LR with only Topaz Denoise Auto.

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The first shot is the "raw" JPG and the second is the RAW processed in LR with only Topaz Denoise Auto.

ISO 6400

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Jun 27, 2022 14:16 |  #311

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Has anybody tested the burst sizes and been able to achieve the specified numbers (51 RAW/187 CRAW)?

I ask because the largest "maximum burst" value I can get to show in the display using the stated settings (high speed continuous+, one-shot AF, ISO 100, and standard picture style) is 41 RAW or 87 CRAW, nowhere near the 51 RAW or 187 CRAW that the specs say.

There are also all sorts of more vague conditions like "Canon testing standards" and subject, memory card brand, and Custom Function, among others. So I'm wondering how possible it really is to actually achieve the 51/187 shot bursts in the real world.

This is the card I am using. Does this qualify as "high speed UHS-II"? Maybe not according to Canon. They say 32 GB, and this might not be their preferred brand.

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Maybe it has something to do with battery charge, my R6 I think when it comes down less than 50% charge it may slow the shutter. ?


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Jun 27, 2022 14:26 |  #312

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #19396946 (external link)
The first shot is the "raw" JPG and the second is the RAW processed in LR with only Topaz Denoise Auto.

ISO 6400


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Without pixel-peeping, the unprocessed RAW looks pretty-pretty-pretty good!


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Jun 27, 2022 15:14 |  #313

Peter2516 wrote in post #19396957 (external link)
Maybe it has something to do with battery charge, my R6 I think when it comes down less than 50% charge it may slow the shutter. ?

Or maybe with the APS-C sensor, this is not necessary?




  
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Jun 27, 2022 15:16 |  #314

gossamer88 wrote in post #19396961 (external link)
Without pixel-peeping, the unprocessed RAW looks pretty-pretty-pretty good!

I can't see where Topaz did anything, but I know I don't have the discerning eye some folks on here seem to have.




  
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Jun 27, 2022 15:24 |  #315

gossamer88 wrote in post #19396961 (external link)
Without pixel-peeping, the unprocessed RAW looks pretty-pretty-pretty good!

especially for ISO 6,400


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