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Jul 05, 2022 10:46 |  #766

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One thing about the burst with pre-shot it is easy to push the button and with the silent electronic shutter the only way you know you held the button down too far is the slider turns red. You need to practice in case you are looking to get a once in a lifetime shot, birds at a feeder are not like an Eagle on a branch, they come back quickly.

One thing I wish is I could put the settings on a custom button, say C3 as so far it seems like I have to set three things each time

RAW only
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Burst Mode

I set it on "My Menu" screen 2 but it still need several clicks to get it. the C1, C2, and C3 are grayed out

Overall it seems to be a nice new feature, but as you say, not very user friendly to activate fast. Maybe there a workaround yet to be discovered, or a firmware update will resolve that.

Another issue is you have to use Canon software at this time to extract the Roll to get to the CR3 files you want, hopefully, eventually you will be able to use other software editors to do that. Once again more steps to get to your CR3 file.

On a scale of 1-10 a 5 for user friendly. The best thing I could see it for is, when your waiting for a bird to fly from a perch, you will get that series of shots, so long as you keep that shutter 1/2 down prior to releasing shutter .


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Jul 05, 2022 10:47 |  #767

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Was my first dslr. Very capable and have seen amazing photography with it.

Same here. Except the amazing photography wasn't mine :oops:




  
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Jul 05, 2022 10:47 |  #768

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This video really shows what I was concerned about with the R7.....Its going to be all about ISO and shutter speed. At F/7.1 @ 6400 to get a shutter at 1/200 is a big concern when you are in low light. F/4 glass puts you at 1/400 for the same light at 6400. If you shoot it 1/3 under your in the 1/640 territory.....He said noise clean needed at 3200 when at 6400 ISO and the image he showed in that low light at 6400 were very usable in my view.....But I would not be at F/7.1-8.0......your going to need faster glass when in low light based to his results....in my opinion.....again its all about shutter speed and where you need to push the ISO to get the shot.....1/200 is going to get a lot of Non usable motion blur shots...we all know this

The variable zooms like the 150-600's and Canons 100-500 are going to struggle in these conditions. I think I will probably keep my 500 F4 because I shoot in low light like this...sometimes much lower where I struggle to get to 1/500-640 at 6400 with F/2.8 glass......I really think based on everything I can find.....6400-8000 is going to be the max for lower light conditions.....super low light that I like this or worse means your going to be putting on R6 or a 1Dx2/3 on the lens to get usable shots.....Im actually OK with that because I have the 1Dx2 and 5D4...so I can go to 12800 is low light on these bodies

I need to get the R7 in my hands to be sure but based on what I am seeing posted here....this is a very good video to make some decisions about a purchase.

Are you able to rent it like Jeff? Perhaps it might be a worthwhile exercise in having it for a week just to make sure you are happy with its performance?


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Jul 05, 2022 10:49 |  #769

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So am I missing something? I was expecting I could have the back screen off and shoot like I used to on the XS. But I seem to have to keep screen closed and then view photos taken through the view finder. Is this normal? Is the R7 that much smarter than me? Keep going through menus but not finding an answer.

There is a display setting somewhere, where it is auto (uses the eye or face sensor under the EVF), or on with which of the 2 displays to use.

I have my R bodies set up that way, EVF is 100% on regardless of whether the back display is outward or inward, and I have the DOF preview set to toggle to the rear display. I don't want it to keep using the IR sensor, I want to control it.


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Jul 05, 2022 10:50 |  #770

Previously posted in the other R7 forum.

Question for those who have or have had the EF100-400mm v2 and the RF100-500mm.

My EF lens works well with the R7 body. Just as good as on the 90D. If I would purchase the RF100-500mm, I would assume image quality would be as good or maybe better than my EF lens. My question is, would the native combo give me better IS?

When at airshow with prop aircraft and helos your SS is usually between 1/60 & 320. I am no longer able to pan and have the majority of pics in focus at 400mm and with the t/c it only gets worse. I have resorted to a gimbal/tripod. But that just stinks.

Jets are no problem at this time. ;-)a


On another note, my refurb RF 800 f11 became intermittent in autofocusing. I was going to try another one but none in stock so a refund is planned upon return. My copy was ok but not as sharp as I had hoped. If I could get a sharp copy, I would buy it again. Great for land animals but not for BIF.


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Jul 05, 2022 11:06 |  #771

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19400396 (external link)
I just received an email from my camera shop. They received R7's and one of them is mine!
I transferred the money a moment ago and the camera should be here probably day after tomorrow or the day after. Yay!

Eagerly waiting to see those gulls  :p:-P


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Jul 05, 2022 11:10 |  #772

umphotography wrote in post #19400459 (external link)
....this is a very good video to make some decisions about a purchase.

I thought you already made your decision to buy the R7 sometime ago. (based on one of your posts).


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Jul 05, 2022 11:20 |  #773

umphotography wrote in post #19400459 (external link)
This video really shows what I was concerned about with the R7.....Its going to be all about ISO and shutter speed. At F/7.1 @ 6400 to get a shutter at 1/200 is a big concern when you are in low light. F/4 glass puts you at 1/400 for the same light at 6400. If you shoot it 1/3 under your in the 1/640 territory.....He said noise clean needed at 3200 when at 6400 ISO and the image he showed in that low light at 6400 were very usable in my view.....But I would not be at F/7.1-8.0......your going to need faster glass when in low light based to his results....in my opinion.....again its all about shutter speed and where you need to push the ISO to get the shot.....1/200 is going to get a lot of Non usable motion blur shots...we all know this

The variable zooms like the 150-600's and Canons 100-500 are going to struggle in these conditions. I think I will probably keep my 500 F4 because I shoot in low light like this...sometimes much lower where I struggle to get to 1/500-640 at 6400 with F/2.8 glass......I really think based on everything I can find.....6400-8000 is going to be the max for lower light conditions.....super low light that I like this or worse means your going to be putting on R6 or a 1Dx2/3 on the lens to get usable shots.....Im actually OK with that because I have the 1Dx2 and 5D4...so I can go to 12800 is low light on these bodies

I need to get the R7 in my hands to be sure but based on what I am seeing posted here....this is a very good video to make some decisions about a purchase.

1/200th at 6400 ISO is certainly quite dark conditions. I accidentally shot a couple frames over the weekend at ISO 8000 and 10000 because I forgot to lower my shutter speed from the day before and I found those shots to be marginally useable at best...I probably wouldn't keep them personally, but they would display fine on Facebook or Instagram if that's what you wanted to use them for. After I figured that little issue out I had no issues shooting right at sunrise averaging around ISO 3200 which had little issue cleaning up.

With the RF 100-500 lens one of the best things about it is the combination lens IS and IBIS which can allow for some really low shutter speeds in good conditions. However, I do think the R7 IBIS is a bit over-active at the moment and I also think that was part of the issue Duade was seeing in his video, it wasn't just rolling shutter it was also the IBIS stepping in and trying to correct the movement he had while hand holding. I see this a bit on the R5 as well, but I think I see it a bit more on the R7. Maybe some tweaking from Canon is in order at some point.


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Jul 05, 2022 11:26 |  #774

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Eagerly waiting to see those gulls  :p:-P

Hahaha, yes, I always try out new gear on the gulls. When I receive new gear I can't wait to go out properly, I want to shoot something immediately and the gulls are there and I can shoot them from my bedroom. So it's only natural. :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, gulls are a coming!  :p :-D


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Jul 05, 2022 11:27 |  #775

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But unfortunately it has no effect in RAW burst mode, it remains silent no matter what the 'Volume -> Shutter Volume' is set to! Maybe a firmware update will fix this?

Oh apologies - I did not realise this.

Checking the manual on p275 I find this may be by design....

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Jul 05, 2022 11:29 |  #776

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19400396 (external link)
I just received an email from my camera shop. They received R7's and one of them is mine!
I transferred the money a moment ago and the camera should be here probably day after tomorrow or the day after. Yay!

Looking forward to the shots.

I keep checking the email but not yet .... :cry:


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Jul 05, 2022 11:29 |  #777

jbrackjr wrote in post #19400482 (external link)
Previously posted in the other R7 forum.

Question for those who have or have had the EF100-400mm v2 and the RF100-500mm.

My EF lens works well with the R7 body. Just as good as on the 90D. If I would purchase the RF100-500mm, I would assume image quality would be as good or maybe better than my EF lens. My question is, would the native combo give me better IS?

When at airshow with prop aircraft and helos your SS is usually between 1/60 & 320. I am no longer able to pan and have the majority of pics in focus at 400mm and with the t/c it only gets worse. I have resorted to a gimbal/tripod. But that just stinks.

Jets are no problem at this time. ;-)a


On another note, my refurb RF 800 f11 became intermittent in autofocusing. I was going to try another one but none in stock so a refund is planned upon return. My copy was ok but not as sharp as I had hoped. If I could get a sharp copy, I would buy it again. Great for land animals but not for BIF.

Tracking on mirrorless takes a lot of practice and getting used to compared to the OVF's. I haven't had a chance to shoot any props with the R7 but I've done it quite a bit with the R5 at a couple different airshows. The movement in the viewfinder just isn't as smooth as an optical one. I enable the diaginal and 3x3 lines in the viewfinder, and put the middle of the "X" on the part of the plane or helo I'm tracking and just do my best to keep it there while shooting bursts. I usually get some good results with that.

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Jul 05, 2022 11:33 |  #778

jbrackjr wrote in post #19400482 (external link)
Previously posted in the other R7 forum.

Question for those who have or have had the EF100-400mm v2 and the RF100-500mm.

My EF lens works well with the R7 body. Just as good as on the 90D. If I would purchase the RF100-500mm, I would assume image quality would be as good or maybe better than my EF lens. My question is, would the native combo give me better IS?

When at airshow with prop aircraft and helos your SS is usually between 1/60 & 320. I am no longer able to pan and have the majority of pics in focus at 400mm and with the t/c it only gets worse. I have resorted to a gimbal/tripod. But that just stinks.

Have you got the IBIS on or off?


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Jul 05, 2022 11:33 |  #779

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19400496 (external link)
Hahaha, yes, I always try out new gear on the gulls. When I receive new gear I can't wait to go out properly, I want to shoot something immediately and the gulls are there and I can shoot them from my bedroom. So it's only natural. :mrgreen:

Oh yeah, gulls are a coming!  :p :-D

And actually, they really can tell me if a camera or a lens are good. My gull shots are the first test.

And I just received an email: camera has been shipped. Postal services says delivery tomorrow morning. But we have major protests going on by lunatic farmers, blocking major roads as well as distribution centres. So it may take longer to arrive. Fingers crossed.


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Jul 05, 2022 11:38 |  #780

Lester Wareham wrote in post #19400498 (external link)
Looking forward to the shots.

I keep checking the email but not yet .... :cry:

I was surprised to get the email, Lester. I hadn't expected that at all. I was thinking I would be lucky if it were here before August. So, you never know.
Are you also checking shops yourself? That's how I got my R6 as suddenly a shop, other than the one I had pre-ordered the R6, had stock. And I got it.


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