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I'm so tired of summer light. Broke down and made an HDR. On a tripod and everything.

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drsilver wrote in post #19419151
I'm so tired of summer light. Broke down and made an HDR. On a tripod and everything.

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Nice picture!!

What is an HDR?? Picture please of the HDR you made!!!!

Inspeqtor wrote in post #19419168
Nice picture!!

What is an HDR?? Picture please of the HDR you made!!!!

High Dynamic Range

It's where you shoot several images of the same scene at different exposure values and through the magic of software, combine them to make one good picture where you get both bright shadows and definition in the sky.

You need to shoot from a tripod so all the shots line up. I set my drive mode to a 2-second delay.

I took 5 shots. You can set the camera up to do them all at once, and even create the final product, I think, but I couldn't figure that out on the fly, so I just did it manually. The 5 shots were -2, -1, 0, +1 +2 EV from the meter reading. I combined them in Lightroom. I think it took 3 clicks, to get 1 DNG file that I processed like I normally process any raw file.

I think there is more than one thread going on here at PTON about HDR.

drsilver wrote in post #19419184

Inspeqtor wrote in post #19419168
Nice picture!!

What is an HDR?? Picture please of the HDR you made!!!!

High Dynamic Range

It's where you shoot several images of the same scene at different exposure values and through the magic of software, combine them to make one good picture where you get both bright shadows and definition in the sky.

You need to shoot from a tripod so all the shots line up. I set my drive mode to a 2-second delay.

I took 5 shots. You can set the camera up to do them all at once, and even create the final product, I think, but I couldn't figure that out on the fly, so I just did it manually. The 5 shots were -2, -1, 0, +1 +2 EV from the meter reading. I combined them in Lightroom. I think it took 3 clicks, to get 1 DNG file that I processed like I normally process any raw file.

I think there is more than one thread going on here at PTON about HDR.

So the HDR was a picture you made, not an HDR device (as was my initial thinking) to make pictures.

Inspeqtor wrote in post #19419212
So the HDR was a picture you made, not an HDR device (as was my initial thinking) to make pictures.

Essentially, yes. HDR is a shooting method to produce reasonable images in high contrast situations. As far as I know drsilver actually did it the hard way. There is a setting on the 90D to automatically shoot in HDR mode. The default settings are 3 images (standard exposure, under exposed and over exposed) taken consecutively and automatically combined in the camera to produce a single jpeg (see page 251 of the manual). I use it all the time on my smartphone. I haven't used it with the 90D, mostly because I feel like the whole reason I got it was to learn how to do actual photography and HDR is cheating. But that's just me.

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Inspeqtor wrote in post #19419212
So the HDR was a picture you made, not an HDR device (as was my initial thinking) to make pictures.

Essentially, yes. HDR is a shooting method to produce reasonable images in high contrast situations. As far as I know drsilver actually did it the hard way. There is a setting on the 90D to automatically shoot in HDR mode. The default settings are 3 images (standard exposure, under exposed and over exposed) taken consecutively and automatically combined in the camera to produce a single jpeg (see page 251 of the manual). I use it all the time on my smartphone. I haven't used it with the 90D, mostly because I feel like the whole reason I got it was to learn how to do actual photography and HDR is cheating. But that's just me.

Thank you!!

hobs1466 wrote in post #19419273
drsilver actually did it the hard way...

I agree. I'd done in-camera HDR before but not enough to know where all the settings are, so I just went manual.

Still, the hardest thing about the whole exercise was setting up the tripod.

hobs1466 wrote in post #19419273
HDR is cheating. But that's just me.

It's not just you. I mentioned that in my original post, then took it out. It's a valid photo technique in the 21st century and I don't want to discourage anyone from trying it out.

But it does feel like cheating and I'm not proud of it. I spent a lot of time trying to understand the limits of dynamic range -- first on film, then with digital -- then use exposure, light angle, and framing (and frankly, a love of strong blacks) to give myself a chance at something I can work with in post from a single exposure.

This one was made about 10 minutes after the HDR shot above. No tripod required.

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drsilver wrote in post #19419151

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Great pictures!

drsilver wrote in post #19419367
I agree. I'd done in-camera HDR before but not enough to know where all the settings are, so I just went manual.

Still, the hardest thing about the whole exercise was setting up the tripod.

It's not just you. I mentioned that in my original post, then took it out. It's a valid photo technique in the 21st century and I don't want to discourage anyone from trying it out.

But it does feel like cheating and I'm not proud of it. I spent a lot of time trying to understand the limits of dynamic range -- first on film, then with digital -- then use exposure, light angle, and framing (and frankly, a love of strong blacks) to give myself a chance at something I can work with in post from a single exposure.

This one was made about 10 minutes after the HDR shot above. No tripod required.

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Beautiful shot - well done!

Is HDR really cheating? If you consider a scene you are looking at, as your eye focus moves across/along it, your eyes are essentially doing HDR processing by constantly adjusting the pupils. To some degree that's what HDR processing is doing but just capturing it all together in a single image. It is in many ways showing the scene how your eyes perceive it in real time.

sparksdjs wrote in post #19419976
Beautiful shot - well done!

Is HDR really cheating? If you consider a scene you are looking at, as your eye focus moves across/along it, your eyes are essentially doing HDR processing by constantly adjusting the pupils. To some degree that's what HDR processing is doing but just capturing it all together in a single image. It is in many ways showing the scene how your eyes perceive it in real time.

Thank you.

I have no problems with HDR. If it's done well, I probably don't even notice it most times. In the right hands, the results can be spectacular. If that's a tool you keep in your box, you'll get no pushback from me.

I've always shot for post. The whole idea was to make a good negative that you could manipulate with your hands under an enlarger, and I brought that with me to raw files. In the field, figure out a way to make a tight histogram with latitude in all directions.

Regular Dynamic Range (RDR) in cameras today almost feels like cheating, and to me, HDR feels like giving up. "Here Canon, here Adobe, I really couldn't find a shot so I just grabbed a bunch of data. Run your query and bail me out."

sparksdjs wrote in post #19419976
Beautiful shot - well done!

Is HDR really cheating? If you consider a scene you are looking at, as your eye focus moves across/along it, your eyes are essentially doing HDR processing by constantly adjusting the pupils. To some degree that's what HDR processing is doing but just capturing it all together in a single image. It is in many ways showing the scene how your eyes perceive it in real time.

Which is why I said "to me". The whole reason I got a decent dSLR in the first place is to learn how to actually do photography. If I wanted the camera to do everything for me, I could have just gotten a point and shoot or even stuck with my smart phone. By using HDR in challenging lighting conditions, I am not learning anything.

Yeah, gonna need a longer lens...

hobs1466 wrote in post #19420229
Yeah, gonna need a longer lens...

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For 300mm that is pretty good!!