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Nov 12, 2022 07:55 |  #2146

Tamron 70-180mm panoramic on the A7 - I love shooting/processing images taken in this way.

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Nov 12, 2022 08:03 |  #2147

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Nov 12, 2022 08:36 |  #2148

Couple good examples of how central composition works well.

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I decided to try a different perspective at Lake Lanier a few days ago.

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And this page also has excellent examples of how well off-center compositions work.


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Nov 12, 2022 09:42 |  #2149

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Couple good examples of how central composition works well.

And this page also has excellent examples of how well off-center compositions work.

I agree completely Archibald. One of the reasons that off center compositions work is because on average, they are visually unpredictable.

When we see something that is centered, the brain tends to accept that and fill in the rest because that's one of the things that people automatically look for when recognizing elements in the environment. When the comp is off-center, it makes our brains work a little bit harder to understand the POV. This can make the picture more successful since the viewer sticks around a bit longer to "understand" the image, and not run off in "an internet second" to the next shot.

The traditional master landscape painters were doing this centuries ago and many photographers today borrow from that technique, to great effect.


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Nov 12, 2022 10:06 |  #2150

One good example of "off center" compositions is Lee Ratter's lovely shot of the foot bridge in post #2353.

From an artistic viewpoint there is an implied diagonal line running from the bridge to the white structure. This gives the photo energy. The picture doesn't just sit there like another static image. That implied diagonal leads the viewer's eye from left to right and creates a more robust visual narrative. In other words: "There's a story here, stick around and study the scene." Of course all of this is just my opinion ;-)a.


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Nov 12, 2022 15:55 |  #2151

sapearl wrote in post #19445819 (external link)
One good example of "off center" compositions is Lee Ratter's lovely shot of the foot bridge in post #2353.

From an artistic viewpoint there is an implied diagonal line running from the bridge to the white structure. This gives the photo energy. The picture doesn't just sit there like another static image. That implied diagonal leads the viewer's eye from left to right and creates a more robust visual narrative. In other words: "There's a story here, stick around and study the scene." Of course all of this is just my opinion ;-)a.

Off center is the default because we hear advice to this effect all the time. Avoid the center, rule of thirds, and so on. In general, IMO, the advice is not valid.

Visual arts compositions communicate. There is meaning to what is in the picture and how it is composed. The center is the most important part of a photo. Put the main subject in the center and it says, Look at me. It better be good, and appropriate, because it will get the attention.

Beginners put stuff in the center because that's the first thing they see on the screen or in the viewfinder. Often those photos lack balance and have other issues, plus the same composition all the time gets boring. Those folks can use a reminder to vary their compositions.

But there are many excellent photographic compositions with the subject appropriately in the center, and IMO it is worth noting that.


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Nov 12, 2022 16:03 |  #2152

Archibald wrote in post #19445938 (external link)
Off center is the default because we hear advice to this effect all the time. Avoid the center, rule of thirds, and so on. In general, IMO, the advice is not valid.

Visual arts compositions communicate. There is meaning to what is in the picture and how it is composed. The center is the most important part of a photo. Put the main subject in the center and it says, Look at me. It better be good, and appropriate, because it will get the attention.

Beginners put stuff in the center because that's the first thing they see on the screen or in the viewfinder. Often those photos lack balance and have other issues, plus the same composition all the time gets boring. Those folks can use a reminder to vary their compositions.

But there are many excellent photographic compositions with the subject appropriately in the center, and IMO it is worth noting that.

In my opinion it is a relationship between balance and tension. The image needs to be balanced, but not so much so that doesn't make you think about the image. If you can provide that relationship, particularly if you can do it with a unique perspective, you have a winner. Folliwing the various rules of composition religiously creates a predictable result and ultimately will look like more of the same. You have to keep pushing the edge and trying new things, which is why we mess up horribly sometimes. :)


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Nov 12, 2022 16:14 |  #2153

sapearl wrote in post #19445819 (external link)
One good example of "off center" compositions is Lee Ratter's lovely shot of the foot bridge in post #2353.

From an artistic viewpoint there is an implied diagonal line running from the bridge to the white structure. This gives the photo energy. The picture doesn't just sit there like another static image. That implied diagonal leads the viewer's eye from left to right and creates a more robust visual narrative. In other words: "There's a story here, stick around and study the scene." Of course all of this is just my opinion ;-)a.

Thank you! I do agree. Most of the time..... ;) But I also just as often go for the central composition.....

I think it very much depends on the image overall. The subject. The sky. The feel..... It's one of those things where there's not strictly a right or a wrong.


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Nov 12, 2022 17:38 |  #2154

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Nov 12, 2022 18:40 |  #2155

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Nov 12, 2022 18:52 |  #2156

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Nov 12, 2022 18:55 as a reply to  @ FPP's post |  #2157

Very nice FPP!


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Nov 12, 2022 18:56 as a reply to  @ DCBB Photography's post |  #2158

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Nov 12, 2022 19:12 |  #2159

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In that first shot, by any chance is that a dedicated park where some restoration work is going on? I see what appear to be some caged saplings.


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