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Apr 16, 2023 17:43 |  #1

Quick question
I love using vintage m42, Leica R etc lenses

On the sony I'm using an AF which makes these lenses auto focus. Not necessary but very handy.

How is the experience with vintage glass on the R series ?

Can't find if there are any AF convertors for Canon but maybe I'm missing it ?

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Apr 17, 2023 07:54 |  #2

I have my trioplan and other vintage glass adapted to EF and just use the Canon adapter for my R. Works fine, no AF though, just manual focus. Focus peaking does work. Some manufacturers have chipped adapters, not sure how well that works, I think it would probably be iffy at best.


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Apr 17, 2023 12:19 as a reply to  @ greyswan's post |  #3

With chipped you mean aperture etc ?
That wouldn't be important for me personally.

Missing af is a thing. It's not fast but so incredibly handy ;) on the other hand my RZ67PROII and film cameras (love hobbying with film) are also MF and dont have parking.

On the sony i find focus peaking sometimes not accurate enough especially wide open.


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Apr 17, 2023 21:15 |  #4

Chipping is for AF I believe, sorry, I've never actually used a chipped adapter, I just use manual for vintage glass.

The focus peaking is quite accurate on my R though.


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Apr 17, 2023 22:32 |  #5

The chipped adapter serves the purpose of telling the meter the wide-open aperture of the lens, and also serves to enable AF confirmation display (red flash of AF point when focus is achieved). I have used Olympus OM lenses with a chipped adapter and used the AF confirmation flash to alert me to best focus, since the AF focus screen is not as coarse as manual focus screens.
While manual focus with AF confirmation is not as fast as AF, it certainly is faster than rocking the focus back and forth to find best focus (like you might do with tradition manual focus screen that lacks a focus aid in the center, or with the not-coarse screens in AF cameras.


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Apr 18, 2023 00:50 |  #6

Got it.
I would definitely want to use peaking
On the sony manual focus peaking also works without a chipped adaptor so didn't know canon didn't.

The adaptor i now use physically moves the lens to get an AF system. It's not super fast but it works like a charm.


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Apr 21, 2023 12:22 |  #7

I think it would be very cool to mount one of the old Canon Super Canomatic “R” mount lenses on an “RF” mount “R” series camera. I am pretty sure the FD to RF adapters would work just fine.


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Apr 21, 2023 12:38 |  #8

J.A.F. Doorhof wrote in post #19507843 (external link)
Got it.
I would definitely want to use peaking
On the sony manual focus peaking also works without a chipped adaptor so didn't know canon didn't.

Peaking will work without a chipped adapter. Canon offers a manual focus confirmation that needs a chip, but peaking does not need one.


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Apr 21, 2023 16:28 |  #9

So only thing missing would be the confirmation beep?

With peaking only it would also work.


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Apr 21, 2023 18:17 |  #10

Why not set your AF point you want critical focus at, then turn on the 5x loupe feature, get focus nailed, then take the shot? You can even go 10x if you want in the VF, but I find 5x works most of the time.

The 5x loupe and focus peaking are great tools with the EVF when using MF lenses.


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Apr 21, 2023 22:06 |  #11

R on R should be fine. Just as any SLR lens, without odd rear end.

I had old SLR lenses on RP. It was totally fine. Even on 20mm side.
From first version of Nikkor 50 1.4 to some compact, made in Japan 24 2.8 and some crazy close focus Vivitar 20ish 2.8 lens with huge front. Like two cm close (not inches) focus distance from the front optical element.

Since you brought Leica word. Rs are OK even with original RF lenses, but don't like them wide.
I had 35 1.4 in M mount and it was good on RP. No Sony focus problems.
The most good thing with Canon is no focus problems. And colors, not just Sony ones. :)


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Apr 22, 2023 00:05 |  #12

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19509497 (external link)
Why not set your AF point you want critical focus at, then turn on the 5x loupe feature, get focus nailed, then take the shot? You can even go 10x if you want in the VF, but I find 5x works most of the time.

The 5x loupe and focus peaking are great tools with the EVF when using MF lenses.

This is what I've been doing with manual lenses that don't have contacts and it has worked great for me. I've never found peaking to be perfectly accurate with any camera I've owned so magnifying the view has always felt like the most accurate way to go. Canon's magnify view is super sharp and makes it really easy.


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Apr 22, 2023 00:32 |  #13

No time on the street or during a model shoot to zoom in. On my Sony i can also zoom in to different percentages but it slows down the workflow too much.

I'll figure something out ;)


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Apr 22, 2023 13:00 |  #14

Scottboarding wrote in post #19509566 (external link)
This is what I've been doing with manual lenses that don't have contacts and it has worked great for me. I've never found peaking to be perfectly accurate with any camera I've owned so magnifying the view has always felt like the most accurate way to go. Canon's magnify view is super sharp and makes it really easy.

Given the 'acceptable' accuracy to which the AF is designed by the manufacturer to achieve, there is a range of 'in focus' that is acceptable, and that may not always be at the exact focus plane of the subject.


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Apr 22, 2023 13:03 as a reply to  @ J.A.F. Doorhof's post |  #15

A chipped adapter to take vintage lens and allow mounting on EF mount, that is then connected to the Canon EF-to-RF adapter


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