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Good Shot From Tonight and a Question (Volleyball)

 
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Sep 18, 2006 23:42 |  #1

First time posting on this forum, but been lurking here for a few weeks.

Got this pic tonight:

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I do have a question though, does she look a little "untextured"?

Any other comments or thoughts? Any advice? This only my 3rd real chance to take pictures of a volleyball game (I have some others fromt tonight and might post those tomorrow) and I think that I am improving some what.

Also do you guys usually shot in large jpeg or straight to raw?

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Sep 19, 2006 07:36 |  #2

I think it's a great photo. It's hard to freeze the action that well in volleyball when shooting at 1/250. At first I thought the photo needed to be rotated to the right because of the net and the player's lean to the left, but rotating the photo would then get the background all out of whack.

I know what you mean about the untextured look and I get those in my volleyball shots (I have to shoot at ISO 3200 and 2.8 just to get 1/200 speed). I don't have an answer for you on that but I'll be interested in seeing what others have to say. Welcome to the forum and continue to post.

(Edited addition: I shoot everything as large JPEG because I'm shooting so many sport and so many photos that I just don't have time to do much processing work. If I did shoot anything RAW, it guess it would be the indoor shots where I need the most help because of the poor lighting.)


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Sep 19, 2006 07:37 |  #3

DaDeuce wrote in post #2005983 (external link)
...I do have a question though, does she look a little "untextured"?...

IMPO - yes




  
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Sep 19, 2006 09:59 |  #4

DaDeuce wrote in post #2005983 (external link)
First time posting on this forum, but been lurking here for a few weeks.


I do have a question though, does she look a little "untextured"?

Also do you guys usually shot in large jpeg or straight to raw?

Great timing on the shot! But to answer your question, yes, the image looks like there was a bit too much noise reduction applied. I shoot all of my sports with jpeg medium and I see much less noise in the images at ISO1600 than I do in RAW.


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Sep 19, 2006 12:07 |  #5

I'll try adjusting the noise reduction when I get home today. Also I've been shooting with a 70-200mm f2.8 lens, I've read a few places that peole are recommending atleast a f1.8 to consistantly get good volleyball/indoor gymnasium shots. Any truth to this? I know its always the faster the better, the more expensive, but will my quality jump that much?


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Sep 19, 2006 13:06 |  #6

Yes... noise reduction was a little over done

and Yes... a f1.8 lens is always very helpful. The 85 f1.8 is one of those lenses that probably should be in all photographers bag.


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Sep 19, 2006 15:21 |  #7

Without even looking at your description, I noticed a slow shutter speed and the "plastic" skin.

Yes, f/2.8 is definitely way too small for HS gyms. The 1.8 lets in more light, which = more shutter speed = more sharpness. Or, if there's alot of light (some HS gyms have windows), you could take a step down to ISO 800 for less grain. I've never been able to get over f/2.5 in a gym, and even that was with better than average lighting. The 1.8 is also lightning fast in the autofocus. It's regarded as the ideal lens for volleyball and basketball.

I usually shoot RAW - it's so much more forgiving for mistakes and much easier to batch process. I usually do not shoot bursts in volleyball (except maybe for serves).

One tip that I have found useful is to use the "M" mode since the light usually does not change much. Aperture should be max (but the 1.8 loses some sharpness there, regaining it by 2/3 stop smaller), ISO 1600, and get the max shutter speed you can while keeping the exposure between 0 and 1. I usually accept 1/500 as a minimum shutter speed. And even though it's minimum, going higher won't really do much more. Once you have achieved 1/500, you can open up the aperture a couple of 1/3 stops, and maybe look at lowering the ISO.

At the home gym, I usually set my camera to 1/500, 2.2, ISO 1600 - the gym's just bright enough.


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