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Trading down to a 10D

 
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Sep 29, 2006 22:09 |  #16

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I have a 1DmkII and still use my 10D as spare for sport photography. IMHO the 20D is not that much of an upgrade over the 10D as people like to think and that is why I have a 1DmkII.
IQ, 2 MP is barely, if at all, noticeable.
Start up is slow, but who shuts their camera off all the time while they are using it.
Buffer is only an issue if you shoot consecutive in RAW, not an issue in Large JPEG.
AF is the same as 20D.
10D doesn't and never did have battery grip issues.
High ISO noise, 20D is better no doubt, but 10D is still acceptable. Not a real issue unless you are going to shoot 1600 and 3200.

If you are trading straight across its worth getting the 10D, but if you are throwing money in, go right to the 30D

I loved the 20D, 5fps, almost instant on (far more instant than my 300D.) I don't turn off the camera, I left it switched to on, I just have the camera auto turn off after 1 minute though to save batteries. It's not an issue when I'm continuously shooting because the camera goes right back on. With a slower camera you have to leave it on all the time or you might miss a shot while you're waiting for the camera to turn on.

Also, I always shot in RAW, I had the 20D with a 1GB SanDisk Extreme III CF card. When I switch to a slower memory card (I had a SanDisk 256MB CF card that I used mostly for my Powershot G3 when I had it) it was painful waiting for the buffer to empty and I dreaded having to use that card. The thing is, the 10D will be fine, unless you one day pick up a 20D and start to use that for an hour. Just like cheap glass is fine, till you pick up a 70-200 F2.8L and then you don't want your camera touching anything without a red ring on it.




  
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Sep 30, 2006 00:15 as a reply to  @ zakabog's post |  #17

The thing is, the only time I'm really gonna be using my camera at night will be when shooting skateboarding and I recently picked up 2 flashes so using low ISO's won't really be a problem. I'm just wondering how the 10D compares to the XT in performance.


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Sep 30, 2006 00:36 |  #18
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I own the 20D and the 10D, and use the XT at work on a daily basis. I opted to purchase a 10D over an XT for my own personal backup camera due to the control set up and build quality. You do sacrifice high ISO performance, but if I'm shooting low light, I can use flash or switch to the 20D. I really prefer the 10D image quality. The colors it produces are lovely.



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Oct 03, 2006 04:13 as a reply to  @ liza's post |  #19

I've got one more question. Does the 10D have the same orgasmic shutter sound like the 20D?


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Oct 03, 2006 08:42 as a reply to  @ post 2055641 |  #20
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The phrase that catches my eye from the thread title is "trading down".

I'd never do that.

The 20D would be a more logical upgrade, and the price difference between the 350 and a 20D isn't too great any more. I just picked up a 20D w/grip and a Bigma for $1,450.00.

The deals are out there...


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Oct 03, 2006 11:56 |  #21

definitely a downgrade other than for ergonomic purposes. Yeah, let's trade in my 03 M3 for 97 M3....
If anything get the 20d please!


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Oct 03, 2006 12:31 |  #22

Why not just bite the bullet and grab the 30D, then your set for a few years!
Whats a few hundred dollars when you already have thousands invested?...LOL



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Oct 03, 2006 15:12 |  #23

Good to see another M3 person here.....still waiting to see what the new one is going to offer for the U.S. This is one of those times that I wished I still lived in Germany.

Oops, I fogot to add something photography related.....Owning both the 20D and 10D; if I was wanting to trade the XT, i would go with the newer 20D and even up to the 30D if the cash isn't a show stopper.

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definitely a downgrade other than for ergonomic purposes. Yeah, let's trade in my 03 M3 for 97 M3....
If anything get the 20d please!


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Oct 03, 2006 18:51 |  #24

delhi wrote in post #2071482 (external link)
definitely a downgrade other than for ergonomic purposes. Yeah, let's trade in my 03 M3 for 97 M3....
If anything get the 20d please!

But if the '97 M3 handled better...


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Oct 03, 2006 21:28 |  #25

delhi wrote in post #2071482 (external link)
definitely a downgrade other than for ergonomic purposes. Yeah, let's trade in my 03 M3 for 97 M3....
If anything get the 20d please!

Isn't it more like trading a 03 325i for a 97 M3?


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Oct 03, 2006 21:31 |  #26

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I've got one more question. Does the 10D have the same orgasmic shutter sound like the 20D?

The shutter on the 10D is almost whisper quiet.


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Oct 04, 2006 01:33 |  #27

Agree totally the shutter on the 10d is so much quieter than the 20d, I'd of thought if the 20d was that much of an upgrade when it came out shutter noise would of been an option, ie to turn it on or off.

I have also seen reviews which suggest that Canon played with IQ in the 20d and got it wrong:( the IQ of the 10d and 30d are much more compareable:cool:

I choose to shoot mostly with my 10d as it gives better IQ, I'm not a gear chasing must have the latest type of guy so I'll await the new 1DS mk 17 with 17 trillion mp and a 3.2m LCD screen with auto robototic speak control:cry:

As for those who doubt what I've said, they have now moved on to the latest and greatest, whilst I don't doubt their knowledge or integrity, I am still using my 10 d and 20 d, so you make your choice as to who to follow for the answers you are seeking ;)



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Oct 04, 2006 01:48 |  #28

Ok, I am a 10D lover, and I gotta say some things (flame suit on), some already mentioned above:

- XT to 10D a downgrade?... wrong choice of words, or sizeable misconception. If you spend more than 60 mins with a camera on your hands every single day, the 10D will call for you over the XT. Build quality, controls, LCDs and other such niceties.

- 10D vs 20D? I can tell you, I owned 2 10Ds and 1 20D plus my new 30D. The 10D is quieter and cheaper in price than 20 and 30 D. 20D was to me better than 10D features wise, but the mirror slap is louder enough to make it a consideration if you shoot indoors or weddings. And if you would go for a 20D new, might as well shell out an extra $200 and get the 30D, with a shutter rated at twice the actuations, and not nearly as noisy (and yes, can you say spot metering on a large LCD?)

To finish my comments, I have nothing against XT series at all. They are all fine casual consumers (take it on a cruise, or to disneyland) fun, play in the backyard camera. Many in this forum take good enough photos to sell and make money with XT.

But the XXD series, is built for rugged. Pro use, with constant clanking and battering. You will not grasp this concept and think your XT is sturdy, until you take two cameras into the field, with heavy lenses on, and have them strapped to your neck and shoulder at once, while you walk the game sidelines for 90 mins or more.

With all that off my chest, find a camera that makes you happy. Mgapixels, ISO noise, RAW write speed, it is all good and dandy, but it will only make a difference if you hate the camera. If you love it, you will find no errors, and will focus on taking better pictures.

And after all, that is why we are here, aren't we?...

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Oct 27, 2009 15:02 |  #29

10d or 20d, depending on which you can find the better deal on when buying. There's been some awesome deals on both, but sometimes you have to wait a while before finding the deal that's right for you. Some cost to fix if the shutter dies, same trade-in value through the canon loyalty program.




  
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Oct 27, 2009 15:05 |  #30

Thread from the dead :)


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