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Oct 09, 2006 21:15 |  #1

Good evening everyone. I have only taken pictures of soccer games in the morning or early afternoon. I have never shot a game at 6pm. Can you all give me some "things to remember" when shooting in this type of light? I live in Texas if that helps any.

I would love suggestions regarding my ISO, White Balance, sun placement, etc. Thanks so much. I'm just a mom of an 8 year old soccer player trying to get some good photos for the scrapbook.

Thanks so much.

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Oct 10, 2006 11:21 |  #2

My younger brother's Varsity team almost always plays at either 5:30 or 6 in the evening. I usually shoot f2.8-3.5 (In your case with the 70-300 shoting at f4 shouldn't hurt anything, just up your iso speed if you get blur), iso between 100-800 (1600 if its cloudy or I want to get the shutter speed up). Shooting in AV mode with the afore mentioned settings should yeald fairly quick shutter speeds, the rest is up to you.

As for white balance, I usually shoot in RAW mode and adjust the balance on my computer after I get home. But if you can't or don't know how to do that, shoot with the sunny setting for direct light, or shoot in cloudy or shady for when the sun starts setting.


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Oct 10, 2006 12:31 as a reply to  @ DaDeuce's post |  #3

At the beginning of the game you will probably have low direct sunlight. If possible you want to get the sun to your back. That should be some great light for a little while, but you will probably loose the sun by the end of the game. Crank up the ISO as much as your camera will allow you to without getting too much noise. (on my 20D, I would set at 1600, but it is a really low noise camera) I don't know if you will be able to get away with setting a white balance. That time of day the light changes so quick (at the start you will have direct sunlight if there are no clouds, but at the end you will be relying on the fields lights), I think I would have to trust the auto setting. (or shoot raw)


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Oct 10, 2006 12:46 |  #4

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I will start with your suggestions and try to adjust accordingly. I just hate to get out there and start off bad from the get-go so thanks so much for your responses.

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Oct 10, 2006 17:48 as a reply to  @ nickybegood1998's post |  #5

Good advice here. I'd definitely take your flash along; ISO 1600, shutter around 200-250. Shoot raw and don't worry about WB; just set it to auto.

Post the results.

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Oct 11, 2006 10:32 |  #6

Mdjak, the flash was going to be my next question but since you have answered it already, I will be taking it with me. Do you think I will be able to catch the action with the ss between 200-250?

Thanks so much everyone. I hope I get some good ones. I'll post a few tomorrow.

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Oct 11, 2006 11:35 |  #7

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Mdjak, the flash was going to be my next question but since you have answered it already, I will be taking it with me. Do you think I will be able to catch the action with the ss between 200-250?

Thanks so much everyone. I hope I get some good ones. I'll post a few tomorrow.

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it's doable, but not a good way to go about things... best suggestion is to pump up the iso to maximum and hope you stop the action enough


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Oct 11, 2006 13:46 |  #8

basroil, thanks for the info. I brought it along just in case but I will try increasing the ISO first. Someone also suggested that I ask the coaches and referees if it is ok to use the flash...I didn't even think about that. The kiddos are only 7 and 8 but i still want to be respectful and not disrupt the game.


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Oct 11, 2006 14:03 as a reply to  @ nickybegood1998's post |  #9

My suggestion would be that you NOT ask anyone if it okay to use flash. As Nike says, Just Do It! Once you ask, you get them thinking.

I've used my flash in every sport imaginable and have never been questioned or challenged. I've stood poolside during swim meets and taken shots of swimmers as they go by; indoor basketball; volleyball, wrestling. I've done football, soccer, all with flash if it is at night.

I've never been told by anyone that the flash has distracted them or "blinded" them.

Just go there, make like a pro, and use the equipment you have in the way you see fit.

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Oct 11, 2006 15:33 |  #10

Thanks Mdjak. I'll do just that.


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Oct 11, 2006 20:39 |  #11

Ok, I had a great time taking pictures tonight. Here are a few pics SOOC. I didn't do so well but I wanted you guys to see the pics without any processing so you can help me get better (please please). I set my ISO to 800 and I have quite a bit of noise. It's hard to tell on my LCD screen how the picture looks even when I zoom in. I'm also looking at the histogram but I don't really know how to correct yet when it's one sided.

With all that being said, let me know what you guys would do differently for the next time ok?

My settings: AV, aperture: 4-5, ss: 1000-2500, ISO 800, WB: Daylight

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Oct 11, 2006 20:49 |  #12

I think they turned out great! Some of the expressions are priceless. Maybe you could adjust the color a little, but i think they are fine. Great job!


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Oct 11, 2006 20:52 |  #13

Do you think? I was hoping for sharper images but maybe I'm hoping for too much considering the lighting. Considering my settings, would you have done anything differently? I have yet to apply any pp so I will be sure to adjust the color.

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Oct 11, 2006 21:16 as a reply to  @ nickybegood1998's post |  #14

I too think you did a fine job. Looks like you still had daylight too.

I would not be in AV mode. I'd prefer to either be in manual, and meter off the green grass, or TV and set as high a shutter speed as possible without the aperture value blinking.

If you think you're getting too much noise, which I don't really see, lower your iso a bit. As long as you've got daylight, shutter speeds of 500-1000 should be enough to freeze action.

Only other critique I would make is you're kind of limited by the glass you currently have. Nothing you can do about that, short of renting/buying a faster lens, such as the very fine 70-200 f2.8.

All in all, you did a great job.

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Oct 11, 2006 21:24 |  #15

Thanks Mark. You know I normally shoot in TV but I was going from a suggestion. I thought I might as well try it since I wasn't having the greatest of luck with TV. I do like being able to control my shutter speeds so it's back to TV I go. I'm not brave enough to shoot in Manual yet...I just play around but these are photos I'm trying to keep so I'd hate to ruin them by my lack of knowledge.

The noise doesn't seem to be showing up so much here but it's more than I'm used to. I would love to purchase a faster zoom lens but the old pocketbook won't allow it. I would have to be a REALLY good girl and maybe Santa will bring it to me for Christmas.

Thanks so much for all the time you took in trying to help me. Hopefully I can make them look a bit better in CS2.

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