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So I forgot to chimp my histogram, and ruined about 100 photos...

 
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Oct 31, 2006 20:24 |  #1

I was shooting at ISO 400 on an alternatively overcast/sunny day in AV at 8.0, trying for the sweet spot, and when I got home almost all of my photos were washed out and way too bright. Awesome. So much for the camera correctly selecting the appropriate shutter speed... and that's what I got for not checking...

doh!


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Oct 31, 2006 20:26 |  #2

I shot an entire morning at ISO 3200, after playing the night before.
I've shot an entire day with IS off.
CDS used to have a big sticker on his camera that said: ISO

It happens, and it just burns the reminders into the brain.


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Oct 31, 2006 22:56 |  #3

If my viewfinder didn't look through the lens, I swear I would take half my shots with the lens cap on.

Ah well. Next time will be better. At least you didn't waste film.


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Oct 31, 2006 23:03 |  #4
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Live and learn. Use the histogram and shoot manual next time.



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Oct 31, 2006 23:07 |  #5

hegemon wrote in post #2198155 (external link)
... and when I got home almost all of my photos were washed out and way too bright. ...

They were all too bright? That doesn't sound like a problem caused by your choice of ISO to me. Perhaps the camera was having a hard time metering the scenes you were shooting? :confused:


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Oct 31, 2006 23:11 |  #6

hegemon wrote in post #2198155 (external link)
I was shooting at ISO 400 on an alternatively overcast/sunny day in AV at 8.0, trying for the sweet spot, and when I got home almost all of my photos were washed out and way too bright. Awesome. So much for the camera correctly selecting the appropriate shutter speed... and that's what I got for not checking...

doh!

Bummer. I've had days like that too...once after shooting in a forest in the evening at 3200, I went the next day to the beach...again, shot the whole thing at 3200....oh and once, when I was first learning digital, I forgot to turn on the AF for the whole day...it's funny looking back on it but at the time I was completely devastated!

As the others have said, chimping, as embarrassing as it is, does help a lot!


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Nov 01, 2006 02:29 as a reply to  @ Permagrin's post |  #7

I went out shooting today, I didn't check the +/- Exposure Setting. It was set to +2, most of my pics. didn't turn out today. I thought it would have reset to 0 when turned off and never checked it. Still learning this XT.


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Nov 01, 2006 03:02 |  #8

Well, sorry if this will sound a bit harsh but... It's not camera's fault but operator's fault ;) I really like this kind of attitude, that we blame equipment for bad photos and we are only ones who are responsible for good photos ;)
It might help that I spent quite few years on film before digital, where I didn't have any chance of "preview", so I had to do it right on first place already. But even now I usually don't check every photo. You have feeling that you know if photo is right or not. And next to this, you have "light meter" in your viewfinder too, so you can see easily if you are going way up or down from "normal" exposure. If this still isn't enough then check. You have this option nowadays, so why not to use it.
But once again... it's not camera's problem ;)


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Nov 01, 2006 03:11 as a reply to  @ primoz's post |  #9

So were you maxing out shutter speed? Or just needed exposure compensation?


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Nov 01, 2006 10:27 |  #10

Choderboy wrote in post #2199516 (external link)
So were you maxing out shutter speed? Or just needed exposure compensation?

probably needed exposure compensation. I agree with the person who said the metering might have been off, because IIRC it was shooting around 1/500 and most of the photos were way too bright... :(

some were at 1/200 ... metering was way off, I guess


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Nov 01, 2006 10:39 as a reply to  @ hegemon's post |  #11

Primoz I remember the good old days of film when you had to know what you were doing and sure didn't have the luxury of making the adjustments as you shoot. Nothing worse than getting your film back to see over exposed/underexposed shots. Fortunately for me those were far and few between.
On the other hand I have been on assignments where I had to chimp to dial it in and man I love the ability to look and see what your getting at that particular setting.


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Nov 01, 2006 10:53 |  #12

I'm a serious chimper. Bust me doing it please. I've recently rediscovered the advantages of using M with static lighting and relying on ETTL to "meter". Getting better results.


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Nov 01, 2006 11:09 |  #13

liza wrote in post #2198724 (external link)
Live and learn. Use the histogram and shoot manual next time.

Exactly what I was thinking. I really like manual. I am getting ready to enjoy a day out shooting too... Gonna head downtown and stuff so I will have some shots to share this evening I hope. Going for candids.


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Nov 01, 2006 11:15 |  #14

primoz wrote in post #2199488 (external link)
Well, sorry if this will sound a bit harsh but... It's not camera's fault but operator's fault ...


I hear this a lot but it is not entirely true. There is a whole field of human interface design dedicated to avoiding mistakes like this; one of the gurus is Donald Norman (external link), whose writing I highly recommend. Much user error can be avoided by better design; in this case the ISO should be as easy to read on the camera as the other two components of the exposure triad, as has been pointed out repeatedly on this forum. While user error with a camera might be an annoyance, in the operating room or in an airliner cockpit it could be fatal. That is why, for example, the oxygen knob on an anesthesia machine has a different look and feel from the other knobs and there are other interlocks that make it almost impossible to not give a patient a minimum amount of oxygen.


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Nov 01, 2006 11:16 |  #15

I don't chimp ;) (oops, better change my avatar!)


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