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Second try at Rugby (excuse the pun!)

 
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Dec 16, 2006 13:24 |  #1

A free afternoon and some sunshine at last, made me head out in search of something to shoot. I went along to watch some club rugby, a local derby game with Stockton taking on Yarm. I know a few guys from the Yarm side, so I sort of concentrated on them. All of the shots were taken with a 1D and a Sigma 120-300 f2.8

#1 The team talk at the end of the first half

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#2 Bursting through the defense
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#3 The conversion...
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#4 A classic scrum half diving pass
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#5 Stop right there! Really annoyed I clipped the tacklers ankle.
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#6 Dejection in defeat......
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For all the sky was clear, I very quickly had to start increasing ISO and ended the match up at ISO1250, with f2.8 only giving me 1/250s! As a result, some of the shots have had some rough and ready noise reduction.

I said the last time that shooting cars at 100mph+ was far easier than field sports, and that impression remains. I take my hat off to the 'togs that do this week in, week out.

As usual, any comments or feedback are most welcome.

Cheers,

Simon.

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Dec 16, 2006 13:47 |  #2

excellent stuff there Simon yes once the light starts to go it does make things a little interesting don't it.
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Dec 16, 2006 14:23 |  #3

musicmate wrote in post #2408208 (external link)
excellent stuff there Simon yes once the light starts to go it does make things a little interesting don't it.
Steve

Thanks Steve, I appreciate the feedback as I really am way out of my comfort zone here.

Interesting is one word for when the light goes, but I can think of a few others as well;) .

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Dec 16, 2006 14:47 |  #4

Simon Harrison wrote in post #2408139 (external link)
For all the sky was clear, I very quickly had to start increasing ISO and ended the match up at ISO1250, with f2.8 only giving me 1/250s! As a result, some of the shots have had some rough and ready noise reduction.

yes, i could tell you used noise reduction, and an agressively strong one at that... 1D cameras tend to produce more luma noise than chroma noise, so there's no need for washed out, cartoonish noise reducing algorithims... for sports it's usually better to leave most of the noise (if you can clump up the noise, it's better, generally that happens on the lowest setting of most noise reducers) and call it an artistic addition than make them look fake..

that's my 2cents for the topic of noise reduction, but good shots (other than post processing too much for noise)


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Dec 16, 2006 15:50 |  #5

basroil wrote in post #2408379 (external link)
yes, i could tell you used noise reduction, and an agressively strong one at that... 1D cameras tend to produce more luma noise than chroma noise, so there's no need for washed out, cartoonish noise reducing algorithims... for sports it's usually better to leave most of the noise (if you can clump up the noise, it's better, generally that happens on the lowest setting of most noise reducers) and call it an artistic addition than make them look fake..

that's my 2cents for the topic of noise reduction, but good shots (other than post processing too much for noise)

I appreciate your comments with respect to the noise reduction. I used Noise Ninja for these with the 1D mk I profiles available from the NN site. I hardly ever have cause to use this programme, and when I do the subjects are usually race cars that are a little more forgiving than people. I was concerned that I'd ended up with some plastic looking players.

Any further tips on noise reduction would be appreciated.

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Dec 16, 2006 18:28 as a reply to  @ Simon Harrison's post |  #6

Simon - Some of my fellow Yanks might not recognize the pun because Rugby's not played near as widely here. Good stuff especially for only your second try. I like #2 best -- good action, nice tight crop, excellent facial expression and lots of mud! As for the use of noise reduction -- that's a personal choice much like how and where to crop. Generally speaking I tend to use noise reduction more on images intended for viewing on a computer monitor than those used for prints.


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Dec 16, 2006 18:59 as a reply to  @ fslshooter's post |  #7

Nice shots, i'm coming up to Yarm for Christmas with my sister-in-law, do they have a game on Boxing day ?




  
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Dec 17, 2006 01:42 |  #8

gsgary wrote in post #2409239 (external link)
Nice shots, i'm coming up to Yarm for Christmas with my sister-in-law, do they have a game on Boxing day ?

Thanks Gary.

I've checked the fixture list for both Yarm and Stockton. Niether team have any games on Boxing Day I'm afraid. How long are you staying up in Yarm for? If you're still up here on Saturday 30th, get up to Croft Circuit. You'll probably find quite a few of us POTN'ers up there!

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Dec 17, 2006 01:46 |  #9

fslshooter wrote in post #2409129 (external link)
Simon - Some of my fellow Yanks might not recognize the pun because Rugby's not played near as widely here. Good stuff especially for only your second try. I like #2 best -- good action, nice tight crop, excellent facial expression and lots of mud! As for the use of noise reduction -- that's a personal choice much like how and where to crop. Generally speaking I tend to use noise reduction more on images intended for viewing on a computer monitor than those used for prints.

Thanks Jerry, I appreciate your comments.

I can't stress just how difficult I find shooting stuff like this compared to the motorsports that I'm used to. I still haven't figured out the best places to stand, and ended up moving around quite a bit yesterday. It's fun though, and I'm only doing it for my own enjoyment. As long as I get a little better each time out, then I'll be happy.

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Dec 17, 2006 04:01 |  #10

Well, if you think you are still out of your comfort zone, there is little hope for me! I have never managed to get shots like these!

I found them to be clear, well focused and very presentable. They showed the 'battle' and the defeat extremely well - with the action well portrayed, too.

If that is only your second time at it, the next few will (should) be stellar. :)

Magic, Simon - I really liked them.




  
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Dec 17, 2006 11:55 |  #11

I can't stress just how difficult I find shooting stuff like this compared to the motorsports that I'm used to.

It's interesting how that works, isn't it? Most people wouldn't think so, & have no idea how tough some of this work is.
#2 would have made the day worthwhile for me! ;)


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