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Jan 02, 2007 03:20 |  #16

Huh? Doesn't Kodak or Fuji has some reworked / rebadged Nikon bodies that supports FF?

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Jan 02, 2007 03:47 |  #17

AFAIK, Nikon claims that they are not interested in FF at all... but I suppose that they can change their line of business.




  
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Jan 02, 2007 06:16 as a reply to  @ Rob612's post |  #18

I tried to be in touch with Nikon Pro Service regarding FF, as I carry Nikon for 15 years, but I don't like the crop format, cause I need wide angle, and I need to see what I'm looking at, and I don't need high fps, I nerver used it that much, even when I did Formula 1, and championship rally, and they just tried to convince me to go with they actual crop model.
Think they don't get my needs, so I will change for canon, I could have wait for a product from them, but needed confirmation.
That will cost me a bit to change the gear... but that cost me more (time, result) with nikon.


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Jan 02, 2007 09:41 |  #19

ryleung wrote in post #2476851 (external link)
Huh? Doesn't Kodak or Fuji has some reworked / rebadged Nikon bodies that supports FF?

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Kodak had the DCS SLR/C (Canon mount) and DCS SLR/N (Nikon mount) a couple years ago, but both of them have been discontinued - they were not very popular.

All the Fuji DSLRs that I could find have an APS-sized sensor with a 1.5x crop factor.

Sony has a grand total of one DSLR model, and that is a cropped sensor.

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Jan 02, 2007 15:39 as a reply to  @ post 2476808 |  #20

BAH!!!

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Jan 03, 2007 12:42 |  #21

I can see a replacement for the 30D and 5D coming. Late is 2006 Canon had a rebate on these 2 models. That event usually indicates something happening. I checked the prices for these two models today. Both these cameras has dropped in price here in Canada.


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Jan 03, 2007 14:01 |  #22

The typical person saying there is no way i will spend $2500 in a 1.5 year old body makes me think of such a perosn that upgrades bodies just because there is a new body out. I think if a lot of people would take the time and truley learn the features of the body they have they will "need" to upgrade as often as they think.

But then again this whole speculation of what is coming is just silly and to argue and get rude about it is even more silly.


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Jan 03, 2007 15:54 |  #23

Steve Beck wrote in post #2483853 (external link)
The typical person saying there is no way i will spend $2500 in a 1.5 year old body makes me think of such a perosn that upgrades bodies just because there is a new body out.

I had trouble understanding that post as well. He claims he does not care about an update to the 5D, but then complains that the 1.5 year-old body being too old.

I would like to see a new 5D with with lower noise per pixel. According to dpreview.com (http://www.dpreview.co​m …ws/canoneos30d/​page20.asp (external link)), 5D has similar noise as 30D per pixel, but 30D has 60% more pixels per mm^2, so 30D sensor doing better per mm^2. 400D seems made some additional progress. So I would like a new 5D using the newer sensor technology (not necessarily increasing the resolution).


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Jan 03, 2007 16:56 |  #24

pieq314 wrote in post #2484405 (external link)
I had trouble understanding that post as well. He claims he does not care about an update to the 5D, but then complains that the 1.5 year-old body being too old.

I would like to see a new 5D with with lower noise per pixel. According to dpreview.com (http://www.dpreview.co​m …ws/canoneos30d/​page20.asp (external link)), 5D has similar noise as 30D per pixel, but 30D has 60% more pixels per mm^2, so 30D sensor doing better per mm^2. 400D seems made some additional progress. So I would like a new 5D using the newer sensor technology (not necessarily increasing the resolution).

I need to buy a NEW model FF DSLR like a 5D, and there is no way I will be spending 2500 on a 1.5yo camera. If Canon won't pull one out early this year, I will surely sell all my Canon setup to move on to the one that does.


NO way will I caugh up 2.5k on an old camera. I rather put it on the new 40d and sell it 6 months down the line when a 5D replacement comes out if they are not released at the same time.

whats soooo hard to understand about that?:rolleyes:

And yes, I like to put a large sum like that on a NEWLY released model. This camera brings me no cash as I am not taking pictures for a living. Buying a new model gives me the most for my money, as I can turn around and sell it with a higher value 18 months down the line when I would want a new one. If I buy the 5d now, and sell it 18months down the line, it will be 36 month old and will be worth $500.00 at most.

I rather wait a few months and invest in a new unit. Money management 101.

I want FF and I will not settle for anything less.


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Jan 03, 2007 19:21 |  #25

Sony already has ff if I am not mistaken.
Nikon will be my next. Do you think Canon is the only one that can make them? Like I said, Canon better wake up and stop making cheesy XTi with 25k rated shutters.

No disrespect but canon knows what they’re doing. There are more Xti buyers then 5D buyers. Yes its more expensive but not all consumers have 5D abilities. Xti is one of the best selling cameras today


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Jan 03, 2007 20:30 |  #26

EYE KNO wrote in post #2485360 (external link)
Sony already has ff if I am not mistaken.
Nikon will be my next. Do you think Canon is the only one that can make them? Like I said, Canon better wake up and stop making cheesy XTi with 25k rated shutters.

No disrespect but canon knows what they’re doing. There are more Xti buyers then 5D buyers. Yes its more expensive but not all consumers have 5D abilities. Xti is one of the best selling cameras today

Again please enlighten us with your knowledge of a Sony FF sensor DSLR??? In camera image stabilizer don't work well w/ FF sensors and 35mm SLR lenses.




  
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Jan 03, 2007 20:36 |  #27

lostdoggy wrote in post #2485632 (external link)
Again please enlighten us with your knowledge of a Sony FF sensor DSLR??? In camera image stabilizer don't work well w/ FF sensors and 35mm SLR lenses.

he's quoting:)


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Jan 03, 2007 21:44 |  #28

stupot wrote in post #2485661 (external link)
he's quoting:)

Oh me bad!!!

Just most poster just click the quote button!!!




  
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Jan 03, 2007 22:38 |  #29

gdl357 wrote in post #2484696 (external link)
NO way will I caugh up 2.5k on an old camera. I rather put it on the new 40d and sell it 6 months down the line when a 5D replacement comes out if they are not released at the same time.

whats soooo hard to understand about that?:rolleyes:

And yes, I like to put a large sum like that on a NEWLY released model. This camera brings me no cash as I am not taking pictures for a living. Buying a new model gives me the most for my money, as I can turn around and sell it with a higher value 18 months down the line when I would want a new one. If I buy the 5d now, and sell it 18months down the line, it will be 36 month old and will be worth $500.00 at most.

I rather wait a few months and invest in a new unit. Money management 101.

I want FF and I will not settle for anything less.

I think I understand you now. You do like to see an update on the 5D. But for now, I do not expect its price to drop much. But in 1.5 years, its (or its successor's) price should drop below $2000 level in my opinion (it's almost at $2k now with double rebate).


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Jan 07, 2007 06:14 |  #30

Sony is not selling a full-frame camera. They do supply Nikon's sensors, making business planning a headache for both companies regarding full-frame.

Nikon will continue to say that there is no need for full-frame and it is a waste, right up to the point when they announce a FF camera, at which time the party line will become that now it is perfected and it is the wave of the future.

Canon's product cycle has been 18 months, but the 1DsII is already 28 months old. Product cycles are lengthening, now that the DSLR market is maturing and approaching saturation (got a year or two to saturation yet). A 5D replacement is not guaranteed and if one appears, it may be a tweak like the 20D to 30D tweak. Don't expect a cheaper new model either, though one wouldn't surprise me.


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