Canon 5D Mk II

Was he trying to push you to a different body instead, at the time?

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #2552907
I had a retailer talk me outta buying a 5D at Christmas time, even with the double rebates telling me to wait until spring if I was thinking of going full frame.......

sapearl wrote in post #2553177
Was he trying to push you to a different body instead, at the time?

Not at all, he was glad to sell me $3k worth of glass but told me I should wait on buying a new body.

Wierd... i was asked if i would like to buy a 5d several times when i got my 24-70. this last weekend.

gdl357 wrote in post #2511457
I was at the counter looking at this guy buy a camera for his wife.

The salesman put a xti and a d80 on the table. Guess what? They walked away with a complete Nikon kit. One look in the viewfinder and they were sold. Supposedly it is bigger and clearer.

So don't forget, consumers don't care about all these technical specs that only pros understand. Its what they saw in the viewfinder that convinced them.

So what if Canon is the only one that has FF, consumers won't give a _hit. Nikon could very well take the market if the want. All they have to do is give better rebates than canon and people will swarm over. It's not the 10% pro camera sales that will keep Canon alive.

If the NEW 5D would be $2000, I would buy it. Other than that, they just lost a sale because they are playing on the fact that RIGHT NOW they are ahead of the game. Afterwards, when they have competition they pull out their good pricing and beg us to buy. Why not do it now.

Thx

That tells me nothing about why that couple decided on a Nikon??? I find it very hard to believe that they picked up the canon ,looked through the veiw finder and then did the same for the nikon, then in that one minute or so that it takes to look through the veiw finder of two cameras, decided on the nikon! I would hate to see that couple buy a car!

ashdavid wrote in post #2554861
That tells me nothing about why that couple decided on a Nikon??? I find it very hard to believe that they picked up the canon ,looked through the viewfinder and then did the same for the nikon, then in that one minute or so that it takes to look through the viewfinder of two cameras, decided on the nikon! I would hate to see that couple buy a car!

It is so true that many people buy for what they appear to be getting for the dollar. I have a good friend who bought the Canon D80 over the xTI based on the price of it and a kit lens with more range than the 17-55. She just assumed because it was an SLR that it will take great photos and was only missing a few bells and whistles. This was despite a few coaching sessions on my part. This Nikon she bought to me is terrible, the lens even more plasticy than Canons consumer line, but you know, she is happy and gave her money to Nikon.

My company build homes and does major renovations. The customers we work with want, and will pay for, quality. There are many out there that I eliminate because they believe they can get the same thing for more money. I have seen people who have bought an new home and are real proud of the quality features built into the home, a home I would be ashamed to build at that level of quality.

So I would have to agree with gdl467 that only 10%, but more likely nearer 20% of camera consumers really know what they are buying and will be sold on one great feature and likely a few others that are ones that in the end don't really matter.

I also agree that it would be in Canon's best interest to stay ahead of the market, being know only for their innovations, not their responses to other companies products.

I would love a 5d sensor and viewfinder in a D200 body with a Canon Mount.

red hot sheep wrote in post #2555731
I would love a 5d sensor and viewfinder in a D200 body with a Canon Mount.

Damn that sounds good..
Any engineers on these boards willing to try it out?!

AdamJL wrote in post #2555881
Damn that sounds good..
Any engineers on these boards willing to try it out?!

Sort of like the "Street Rod" of DSLRs?

Have Fun,

Yeah.... pimp my 5D

AdamJL wrote in post #2555881
Damn that sounds good..
Any engineers on these boards willing to try it out?!

red hot sheep wrote in post #2555731
I would love a 5d sensor and viewfinder in a D200 body with a Canon Mount.

Just add a tube of silicon chaulking.

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #2555477
It is so true that many people buy for what they appear to be getting for the dollar. I have a good friend who bought the Canon D80 over the xTI based on the price of it and a kit lens with more range than the 17-55. She just assumed because it was an SLR that it will take great photos and was only missing a few bells and whistles. This was despite a few coaching sessions on my part. This Nikon she bought to me is terrible, the lens even more plasticy than Canons consumer line, but you know, she is happy and gave her money to Nikon.

My company build homes and does major renovations. The customers we work with want, and will pay for, quality. There are many out there that I eliminate because they believe they can get the same thing for more money. I have seen people who have bought an new home and are real proud of the quality features built into the home, a home I would be ashamed to build at that level of quality.

So I would have to agree with gdl467 that only 10%, but more likely nearer 20% of camera consumers really know what they are buying and will be sold on one great feature and likely a few others that are ones that in the end don't really matter.

I also agree that it would be in Canon's best interest to stay ahead of the market, being know only for their innovations, not their responses to other companies products.

I agree, but the point I was trying to make that gdl467 left out was that, there are a whole range of circumstances that can effect what camera is finally choosen. For instance what the salesman had said to the couple, what the couple were looking for, or how about this one they have a friend who is using nikon and they were already convinced that they wanted to buy a nikon. This information was left out, or again gdl467 doesn't know b/c all he saw was what went on in the shop! No one should comment on why someones eles decided on a certain product and then use that as evidence for general consumer buying trends.

CoolToolGuy wrote in post #2556246
Sort of like the "Street Rod" of DSLRs?

Have Fun,

I wonder if we will ever get to the point where we can custom order our DSLRs - eg specify if you want options such as weather sealing, dust reduction, sensor size and resolution, crop size, inbuilt grip etc.

I personally love the idea!

blackshadow wrote in post #2563447
I wonder if we will ever get to the point where we can custom order our DSLRs - eg specify if you want options such as weather sealing, dust reduction, sensor size and resolution, crop size, inbuilt grip etc.

I personally love the idea!

Not a bad idea, and not likely that difficult to do. I would imagine it would push the cost up quite a bit though.

Certainly feasible - sort of like having a "custom" built house made to your specifications.

The BASE house/5D would cost you $xxxx.00 made from the standard plans, which could actually be pretty reasonable. But as soon as you submit that costly change order for one upgrade from column A, and one from B - kaboom! The unit price takes a huge jump for the specialty features.

BearLeeAlive wrote in post #2563501
Not a bad idea, and not likely that difficult to do. I would imagine it would push the cost up quite a bit though.

'alloy shutter blades'...?