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Jan 28, 2007 09:26 as a reply to  @ post 2613413 |  #2251

Hermeto, give it to me straight. Does this image have good bokeh? I know the leaf cluster is slightly OOF on the edges. I was fighting a strong wind and it made focusing a challenge (even in MF)

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Jan 28, 2007 09:33 |  #2252

dilorenzo1954 wrote in post #2613438 (external link)
Hermeto, give it to me straight. Does this image have good bokeh? I know the leaf cluster is slightly OOF on the edges. I was fighting a strong wind and it made focusing a challenge (even in MF)

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Check these, not sure if they are good bokeh but i think somehow they are.

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Jan 28, 2007 09:55 |  #2253
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dilorenzo1954 wrote in post #2613438 (external link)
Hermeto, give it to me straight. Does this image have good bokeh? I know the leaf cluster is slightly OOF on the edges. I was fighting a strong wind and it made focusing a challenge (even in MF)

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Yo guys, I am not an expert, I am just trying to clear up something that I’ve learned mostly on these pages!
Let’s not forget that bokeh, first and foremost is not measurable.
It describes more quality than quantity of back/foreground blur..

I’d call this a nice bokeh, but that’s just my personal impression.


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Jan 28, 2007 10:01 as a reply to  @ Tareq's post |  #2254

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Jan 28, 2007 10:16 |  #2255

Hermeto wrote in post #2613559 (external link)
Yo guys, I am not an expert, I am just trying to clear up something that I’ve learned mostly on these pages!
Let’s not forget that bokeh, first and foremost is not measurable.
It describes more quality than quantity of back/foreground blur..

I’d call this a nice bokeh, but that’s just my personal impression.

Thanks for the imput:) I'm not trying to annoy..:rolleyes: I'm always afraind I'm posting junk:oops: Good critique makes me want to improve;)

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Jan 28, 2007 10:23 as a reply to  @ nyy's post |  #2256

Hermeto wrote in post #2611827 (external link)
It’s amazing how many people confuse shallow depth of field and good bokeh!
These two things usually go hand in hand, but they are not the same..
Having one does not necesserely means that you have the other too.

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oh man thank God the cannuck said it first lol ive been wanting to say the same thing man

Ditto
I've wanted to say that myself for some time now. I'm not an expert by any degree so I've haven't piped up. I think some people need to read up on what bokeh really is. Google it, search here on POTN, read these. But there is alot of confusion between Bokeh and OOF from a shallow DOF.
http://www.aguntherpho​tography.com/reviews/b​okeh.html (external link)
http://johnlind.tripod​.com/art/artdof.html (external link)
http://www.pathcom.com​/~vhchan/bokeh.html (external link)
http://www.kenrockwell​.com/tech/bokeh.htm (external link)
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/​sm-04-04-04.shtml (external link)
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/b​okeh.shtml (external link)


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Jan 28, 2007 10:24 |  #2257
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dilorenzo1954 wrote in post #2613656 (external link)
Thanks for the imput:) I'm not trying to annoy..:rolleyes: I'm always afraind I'm posting junk:oops: Good critique makes me want to improve;)

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You are most welcome, my friend!

Do not be afraid to post your pictures, no matter how bad they look to you.
After all, we always learn more from our failures than from our successes.


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Jan 30, 2007 10:52 |  #2259

Here's my contribution, first pic with my 50mm f/1.8


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Jan 30, 2007 13:22 |  #2260

Bokeh indeed describes the out-of-focus areas.

But ya gotta have out-of-focus areas, so wide aperture shots tend to demonstrate much more bokeh than shots well stopped down.

Bokeh is the quality of the out of focus areas, and tends to be better with those lenses that ever-so-slightly dim the rim of their CoC's, but not to the point of an obvious bright spot in the middle of the CoC! Those that ring their CoC's with bright usually have bokeh that is described as "harsh," "double-line," or "distracting." There's examples of that in this thread.

If you enjoy Real Bokeh Discussions, look around for the Leica f/1 50mm discussions: Noctilux (A.K.A. Nauselux, A.K.A. Nocti-licious!), where bokeh is described as "swirly," or "wonderful:" both sides of the same coin.

There are plenty of people (especially those that got their start before extraordinary high speed films were commonly available) that don't like out-of-focus areas in photographs; 3D shooters are a good example, where out-of-focus areas are considered contrary to the guidelines. These same people usually roll their eyes when it comes to discussions such as these, expecting their lenses to render what they want as they see it, and not worrying about what isn't supposed to be seen, trusting their tools to do the job of which they are asked.
Watch the DVD of "Paper Moon" sometime. Not a drop of bokeh, even in the night scenes. Listen to the commentary on "why."


Personally, I like it. Broad out-of-focus areas are a cheap (well, f/1.2 lenses aren't cheap- perhaps <i>easy</i>;) way to differentiate pictures taken with more capable lenses from those taken with point-and-shoot cameras with poor or dark optics (the Contax G series excepted- nice bokeh there!), as those cameras/lenses tend not to blast much out of focus.




  
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Jan 30, 2007 13:42 |  #2261

I don't know if this is bokeh or not, but here is mine.
135L w/2.8 and 1/200 at ISO-100

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Jan 31, 2007 01:13 as a reply to  @ huhging's post |  #2262

my try

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Jan 31, 2007 08:08 |  #2263

I had another go and think I may just have managed to capture some nice bokeh ;)

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Jan 31, 2007 10:25 |  #2264

[QUOTE=sismastery;2630​698]I had another go and think I may just have managed to capture some nice bokeh ;)quote]

I like it!:D

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Jan 31, 2007 15:28 |  #2265

Well i'm not sure, but I hope these two qualify as bokeh...

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