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1D Mark III : 12Mp, Crop 1.2, DIGIC III, 8,5fps, detachable grip

 
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Feb 11, 2007 04:58 |  #61

CoolToolGuy wrote in post #2688118 (external link)
Latest addition to this rumor: the 1D Studio will have 22 Megapixels and a $12,000 price tag. . .

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Looks like a good rebate after the Dutct web site where it was rated at $17K !! But still I think is pretty expensive, jump from 16 Mp to 22 Mp is not too much difference in pixels, but a lot in $$$. So, unless some galatics gadgets come with the machine ....


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Feb 11, 2007 06:28 |  #62

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I have been wondering if this may be sorta the case on the lower end...the EF-S lenses won't work on the FF DSLRs; however, I too will be very POed if they come out with something that makes the stuff in my sig obselete. It might compel me to go to the dark side.

Don't worry, there is no virus that will infect your L lens on the day of PMA and make them inoperable. They will make as good a photo the day after as the day before. :D


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Feb 11, 2007 10:53 |  #63

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I know battery technology has improved quite a bit since the 1D was introduced, but if the new model has a removable grip, where will the battery go? IMHO the battery capacity required for the professional models cannot be stored in the hand grip like the 30D.

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The 30D uses a newer generation battery than the 1D types. If you add an even newer generation to the new model you can actually fit it inside the main body.

Look at Cell phones, how do you think they can make them so tiny these days, add a color screen, LCD, hours of talk time, all in a tiny package. Compared to cell froms from year 2000. Think again?


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Feb 11, 2007 11:59 |  #64

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The 30D uses a newer generation battery than the 1D types. If you add an even newer generation to the new model you can actually fit it inside the main body.

Look at Cell phones, how do you think they can make them so tiny these days, add a color screen, LCD, hours of talk time, all in a tiny package. Compared to cell froms from year 2000. Think again?

I understand that battery technology has advanced quite a bit, but the pro cameras typically require more battery power than the consumer/prosumer models to cover more lengthy/demanding usage sessions. IS and AI focus are battery consumers, and sports shooters tend to use them more. Even though battery usage within the body can be improved, IS and focus are in the lens, and the consumption by them will not change until the old lenses are out of circulation. So while there can be some improvements in battery usage in the body, the pros will still need the battery capacity as before. Put that all together, and how much smaller can the new battery be? I don't have the answer, but I really don't think it can shrink small enough to fit into the finger grip. Here's hoping Canon will surprise me. :)

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Feb 11, 2007 14:07 |  #65

CoolToolGuy wrote in post #2690596 (external link)
I understand that battery technology has advanced quite a bit, but the pro cameras typically require more battery power than the consumer/prosumer models to cover more lengthy/demanding usage sessions. IS and AI focus are battery consumers, and sports shooters tend to use them more. Even though battery usage within the body can be improved, IS and focus are in the lens, and the consumption by them will not change until the old lenses are out of circulation. So while there can be some improvements in battery usage in the body, the pros will still need the battery capacity as before. Put that all together, and how much smaller can the new battery be? I don't have the answer, but I really don't think it can shrink small enough to fit into the finger grip. Here's hoping Canon will surprise me. :)

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Very true. However, think of my scenario. During the weekends I need to shoot sports and I need the full maxed out capacity with my Canon. So I put my 400mm IS and I need full capacity for 1000 shots. So I will go shooting with my battery grip attachment at the bottom. But next weeked my daughter will have a birthday party. I don't want to bring my whole gear. I only need my 28-80mm and I don't need the battery grip. Tiny package for my shots as I am only gonna take 35 photos or less than 100. That is the reason a removable grip at the bottom would be awesome.

My 10D comes without the bottom thing and it's small. I bought a battery grip so I could take more shots at a time and I could shoot sideways. This modular feature gives a lot to my 10D. For walk-around this camera is awesome. Tiny without the grip. Let's think outside the box.


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Feb 11, 2007 17:10 |  #66

CoolToolGuy wrote in post #2690596 (external link)
I understand that battery technology has advanced quite a bit, but the pro cameras typically require more battery power than the consumer/prosumer models to cover more lengthy/demanding usage sessions. IS and AI focus are battery consumers, and sports shooters tend to use them more. Even though battery usage within the body can be improved, IS and focus are in the lens, and the consumption by them will not change until the old lenses are out of circulation. So while there can be some improvements in battery usage in the body, the pros will still need the battery capacity as before. Put that all together, and how much smaller can the new battery be? I don't have the answer, but I really don't think it can shrink small enough to fit into the finger grip. Here's hoping Canon will surprise me. :)

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The only thing hogging the battery is the digital sensor side of the Camera, the AF systems, shutter, use almost nothing. As can be attest by the fact I can't recall ever killing a battery on a 35mm body in under a year.

And with newer sensors, Digic 3 -- we may be able to do just a single battery in the grip even at a meager 1500mA. After all the NiMH brick isn't over 1800mA.


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Feb 11, 2007 19:40 |  #67

joeflux wrote in post #2691183 (external link)
Very true. However, think of my scenario. During the weekends I need to shoot sports and I need the full maxed out capacity with my Canon. So I put my 400mm IS and I need full capacity for 1000 shots. So I will go shooting with my battery grip attachment at the bottom. But next weeked my daughter will have a birthday party. I don't want to bring my whole gear. I only need my 28-80mm and I don't need the battery grip. Tiny package for my shots as I am only gonna take 35 photos or less than 100. That is the reason a removable grip at the bottom would be awesome.

My 10D comes without the bottom thing and it's small. I bought a battery grip so I could take more shots at a time and I could shoot sideways. This modular feature gives a lot to my 10D. For walk-around this camera is awesome. Tiny without the grip. Let's think outside the box.

With all due respect, IMHO the 1 series is not designed for this type of usage - it is a tool for shooting an NFL game on Sunday, a political rally on Monday, an NBA game Monday night, the latest Britney Spears sighting on Tuesday, etc. Some of us (me included) may find it to be a great camera to have, but we don't get to call the shots - Sports Illustrated, USA Today, and AP do.

So as I said, perhaps Canon will surprise me.

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Feb 12, 2007 03:08 |  #68

joeflux wrote in post #2691183 (external link)
Very true. However, think of my scenario. During the weekends I need to shoot sports and I need the full maxed out capacity with my Canon. So I put my 400mm IS and I need full capacity for 1000 shots. So I will go shooting with my battery grip attachment at the bottom. But next weeked my daughter will have a birthday party. I don't want to bring my whole gear. I only need my 28-80mm and I don't need the battery grip. Tiny package for my shots as I am only gonna take 35 photos or less than 100. That is the reason a removable grip at the bottom would be awesome.

I used to think that I'd do that with the old EOS 1 and 1n. In practice I could never be bothered to take the drive off. Apart from anything else I got used to the feel with it on and didn't like shooting with it off.




  
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Feb 12, 2007 09:44 |  #69

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SD is definitely not 2-3x the speed of CF. As far as I know the fastest SD card is only half the performance of the fastest CF (40MB/sec for the Extreme IV CF vs 20MB/sec for the Extreme III SD).

As Juan pointed out, the camera is the limiting factor. Because the current 1DMkIIN cannot take advantge of this new CF technology, the fastest SD does offer about a 10% performance increase over the fastest CF inside the camera, but is far slower when offloading the pictures to a computer. Sometimes firmware upgrades can unlock this performance, as Canon showed in the 1DMkII about 2 years ago, but I believe the newer CF techonology requires more than that to support UDMA.

I may be wrong but i thought this was one of the issues that was addressed in the latest firmware update. Steve


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Aug 11, 2007 14:07 |  #70

So this one was a little off the mark eh? :lol:


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Aug 11, 2007 22:36 |  #71

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #3709208 (external link)
So this one was a little off the mark eh? :lol:

It was almost dead on with a little imagination. The name was correct.

There are many programs that can resize a very high resolution 12 mp image out of a Mk III file that is almost impossible to tell was not shot on a 12 mp camera.

The camera does not have any crop since it uses the whole area of its sensor, but you can crop the image by whatever factor you choose in post processing.

Anything is detachable, if you have a big enough hammer. ;)




  
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