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Feb 28, 2007 13:29 |  #91
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terry44 wrote in post #2789003 (external link)
But if you need coverage with certain lenses, FF is a huge step forward. I personally don't need 10 fps at FF, but at 1.3 for news and sport that speed would be very useful. The dynamic crop would give you a choice of FF with lots of MPs and around 5 fps, or dynamically cropped to 1.3 you could have around 10 fps. That's what I'm saying, you would have two cameras in one. Everyone would be a winner - except Canon, so I'm not sure they'll do it.

not every high end camera needs to be FF, Canon already has provided 3 to date. Most of us are happy with 1.3x and perhaps wouldn't buy it if it were FF


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Feb 28, 2007 13:40 |  #92

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But most PJs are happy with 8 MP for the majority of their work. For me, having FF would be a much bigger step forward as compared to a bit more pulling power with telephoto lenses. Then again, 16 MP with dynamic crop would be the best of both worlds. I could do everything with a couple of bodies. Now I'll probably have to buy two 1Diii and a 1Dsiii body. So more money for Canon. Now I see why they didn't want to introduce dynamic crop.

I understand that FF has advantages,. I know that Canon will continue to offer at least two lines of FF cameras ( 1Ds and 5D lines)

However I am SOOOO thankful that Canon did not dissolve the 1.3x line as rumored.
For what I do, this is pretty much the perfect sensor size. Without making the 1.3x compromise, we could not have had cameras with the speed and price advantages that the 1D, 1D MkII and now the 1D MkIII have.. we would have had to wait much longer for FF speeds to catch up , and would have had to pay nearly twice as much.

I personally hope the 1D line remains 1.3X for these reasons.

That would leave us with these options

2 Line of FF (1Ds and 5D)
1 line of 1.3x ( 1D )
2 lines of 1.6x ( 30D series and 300D series)


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Mar 01, 2007 10:48 |  #93

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That's a big IF though. For the rest of us it's a step backward if the frame rate were to drop to say 5fps, a speed that no Canon full frame has been able to achieve. Many don't need super wide angle, and 15-20mm effective plenty wide and doable on a 1.3x sensor with the 12-24, 14mm primes and 16-35L, and we get to keep our speed and extra resolution on the tele end where the higher pixel density helps out.

It's not just super wide angles. The 70 to 200mm would be a fantastic lens for me on a FF body, on a 1.3 crop it's just a bit too tight at the wide end. If they could make something like a 50 to 160mm 2.8L it would help though.




  
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Mar 01, 2007 11:22 |  #94

WOW 10fps? and I was happy to read about it's wireless tranfer.

3999$ will be a bargain for this beast....


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Mar 01, 2007 11:48 |  #95

Broncobear wrote in post #2796040 (external link)
WOW 10fps? and I was happy to read about it's wireless tranfer.

3999$ will be a bargain for this beast....

Don´t say that :evil: :evil: Big Brother is watching you and is going to increase the output price because everybody is telling stupid ;) things !!

Sorry, I forget you are a rich man :D (just joking)

Or may you want to pay $5500 for it, like some fool people is saying at DPRW because in this way should be less people in the pre-order list ?


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Mar 01, 2007 14:32 |  #96

Ok ok not a bargain but a really reasonable price that will be sure to get Canon the maximum amount of profits and happy people who will be sure to get the most out of this product, and then tell the world Canon is the best! Is that better?


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Mar 01, 2007 16:08 |  #97

I have seen in a couple places that the US price for the lens will be $4499.00. Also, I've been checking for change in my truck and in my couch for enough to buy one. If I find enough change, I'll get one. If not, I'm considering selling my truck to get one. Of course if I do that, I won't have wheels to go to the park and shoot ducks! :)

So, I'm still in the planning stages here!;)


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Mar 01, 2007 16:17 |  #98

Right now the closest thing I can find Cdn is 5500....


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Mar 01, 2007 20:15 |  #99

JohnnyG wrote in post #2797533 (external link)
I have seen in a couple places that the US price for the lens will be $4499.00. Also, I've been checking for change in my truck and in my couch for enough to buy one. If I find enough change, I'll get one. If not, I'm considering selling my truck to get one. Of course if I do that, I won't have wheels to go to the park and shoot ducks! :)

So, I'm still in the planning stages here!;)

You mean body?? Still too much at anything over list price! Look at the survey.


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Mar 01, 2007 20:18 |  #100

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #2791213 (external link)
I understand that FF has advantages,. I know that Canon will continue to offer at least two lines of FF cameras ( 1Ds and 5D lines)

However I am SOOOO thankful that Canon did not dissolve the 1.3x line as rumored.
For what I do, this is pretty much the perfect sensor size. Without making the 1.3x compromise, we could not have had cameras with the speed and price advantages that the 1D, 1D MkII and now the 1D MkIII have.. we would have had to wait much longer for FF speeds to catch up , and would have had to pay nearly twice as much.

I personally hope the 1D line remains 1.3X for these reasons.

That would leave us with these options

2 Line of FF (1Ds and 5D)
1 line of 1.3x ( 1D )
2 lines of 1.6x ( 30D series and 300D series)

Just wondering CDS. Will you pay more than list. . .and if so , how much? (Is that too personal?) I don't think I would based on principle, but I want the wide range of auto bracket so badly , I don't trust myself!


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Mar 01, 2007 20:25 |  #101

Not sure Don, I don't think we truly know what "list" is.
I will pay what B&H charges, no more. And I do not think B&H will gouge anyone.

When the MkII was released we all happily paid $4,495.00 .. and that was significantly less than the previous model had sold for at introduction..

When I heard the MkIII was coming out, I assumed it would sell for $4,500.00 again..
That the MkII came down to $4k after two years,, and that the insignificant tweak of the "N" did nto warrant a boost back up to $4,500.00 all seems to make sense to me now.

But this is no "N: model, this is a whole new camera. I have no idea what the deal is with the apparent leak of $4K .. it would be nice, but I was not expecting it to be that low.


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Mar 02, 2007 04:56 |  #102

There are comments at DPRW about the launch price for the 1D MkIII: talking with some USA dealers, Canon has told them it will be $3.999.


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Mar 02, 2007 10:06 as a reply to  @ Juan Zas's post |  #103

Seeing the $3999 price in print from Canon on their white paper is what made me get on the waiting list. When they removed it I figured, ok, $4299-4499 is ok too. If they try to gouge us and charge $4999, I won't be buying one right away.


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Mar 05, 2007 16:14 |  #104

coreypolis wrote in post #2791167 (external link)
not every high end camera needs to be FF, Canon already has provided 3 to date. Most of us are happy with 1.3x and perhaps wouldn't buy it if it were FF

Many of the serious PJs I talk to would like FF. A few have started using the 5D for some of their work while a couple have even started using the 1Dsii (they prefer FF and timing the shot rather than hosing at 8.5fps). Then again, most sports photographers are happy with a 1.3 crop. Personally, I fall between the two camps and would prefer a camera that does both.




  
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Mar 05, 2007 17:51 |  #105

UK prices of this camera have already dropped £50. Was £3049.99 now £2999.99 in Jessops. Possibly early temp pricing, also possible that it's for some other reason.


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