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Thread started 11 Mar 2007 (Sunday) 17:44
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POLL: "Purchase new S80 or G7 as upgrade to S50"
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Mar 11, 2007 17:44 |  #1

I currently own and love using a S50. Time to upgrade and I am considering a S80 or G7. I realize the S80 is hard to find. (not impossible) My interests are travel and outdoor photography. I would have to pay around $600 for the S80.

I love compact digital cameras. I own Pentax 6 x 7 gear and a complete darkroom that doesn't get used anymore. The 13 x 19 prints I make with my S50 are great can't imagine what and 8 or 10 MP camera will do.

Thanks for taking the time to help me select.

David




  
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Mar 12, 2007 13:54 |  #2

I have owned and used the S70, then the S80, and now the G7. The G7 is better than the other two, by far, both ergonomically and for IQ. The only plus for the S80 is the "28mm" wide angle, but the lens quality is less good.

I changed my S70 for an S80 and slightly regretted it - it was no better optically and slightly noisier, but did have a better screen. It did not have RAW, and used SD cards so in some ways I felt it had not been a good "upgrade". Then the G7 came out and it was everything I needed in a "compact" - except possibly the 28mm - and only very slightly bigger than the S70. Obviously it also has no RAW and uses SD - but now I've accepted that is the status quo with the compact Canons.

I'm a 5D user and find the G7 a good fit for me when I want a compact, e.g. informal family shots, skiing, keep a camera in the car etc.

Oh, and yes, if you like large prints, just wait till you see what a G7 can do in terms of stitched panoramas or mosaics, with good software like Autostitch or Autopano Pro!


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Mar 12, 2007 15:14 |  #3

Thanks so much for your insightful comments.

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Mar 12, 2007 15:26 as a reply to  @ puttick's post |  #4

What sold me on the G7 was the fact that everyone who owns one seemed to love it. Whereas negative opinions seemed to come almost exclusively from people who were/are disapointed with the specs, but haven't actually used a G7 for any length of time. Which leads me to believe that, if the specs (lack of RAW, lack of swivel LCD...) aren't a deal breaker for you, you'll love how the G7 actually performs. Luminous Landscape review seems to back that up -- http://luminous-landscape.com …ws/cameras/Cano​n-G7.shtml (external link). Excerpt from the review re: prints:

What's interesting is that my time testing the Canon G7 overlapped with my initial testing period with the Leica M8. Interestingly, both cameras are 10 Megapixel, and so since I was shooting with and making prints from both cameras, with subject matter from the same scenes, the sample prints often became mixed together.

Much as I would like to pretend otherwise, it sometimes was difficult without close examination to be certain which A3-sized print had come from which camera. Yes, a close look would almost always show the G7 files to have a slight "digital" look, while those from the M8 did not, but it was remarkable how well the G7 did. I showed mixed-together prints to several technically knowledgeable and experienced photographers and it took each of them close examination to tell the cameras apart simply from the sample prints, and even then not always. As I said, remarkable image quality (but JPG only).


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Mar 12, 2007 16:49 as a reply to  @ mattjs's post |  #5

Matt,

I suspect you are spot on with your comments. When I purchsed my S50 there were all kinds of disparging reviews claiming it wasn't as good as the S45. I bought mine based on my experience with my first Canon, a Digital Elph, which I though was outstanding. My S50 turned out to be a fine camera. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

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Mar 12, 2007 17:14 |  #6

Here's a G7 panorama, 4 stitched images, Avoriaz (French Alps) - in the centre is a helicopter. Inset at the right is a 100% crop of the helicopter to show the detail. At 250dpi the original will print 1.3m wide.

Actually this image is displaying about 2/3 size in the window here on POTN - no idea why. But you should get the idea.

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Mar 12, 2007 20:19 as a reply to  @ puttick's post |  #7

puttick,

That really gets me motivated to make my purchase, thanks for sharing your outstanding panorama shot. :D

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Mar 13, 2007 10:59 |  #8

Hi David,

now that might be a stupid suggestion from somebody who doesn't know much about the current crop of compact Canon cameras (went from G2 to 20D some time ago and - so far - am not looking back :wink: ), but ...

... in another thread, somebody mentioned a few days ago that he got a used Pro1 for about 300 EUR ... would that also be worth looking at?

No image stabilization, ISO 400 only (not that the new cameras would be known for usable high ISO rating either), electronic viewfinder (yikes for me) ... but with RAW and 28-200 (equivalent) lens on the other hand ... sounds like a decent alternative to me.

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Mar 15, 2007 12:14 as a reply to  @ Andy_T's post |  #9

Andy,

Thanks for the suggestion. Actually, I did consider purchasing the Pro1. It is just to big to carry around. I LOVE small cameras that I can carry on my belt. Otherwise, going out to shoot requires hiring porters. :) The other drawback to the Pro1 is, despite the fabulous lens, the features are even more dated than the G6 or S80. Thanks for the suggestion.




  
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Mar 20, 2007 20:08 |  #10

looks like the G7 wins!!


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Mar 22, 2007 21:44 |  #11

Falkon wrote in post #2903877 (external link)
looks like the G7 wins!!

Purchasing this weekend, thanks for the comments and votes!:D




  
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Mar 23, 2007 02:44 as a reply to  @ avid_dk@yahoo.com's post |  #12

You will not be disappointed. I had the G7 and the only reason I returned it was because it reminded me how much I love photography all over again and thus upgraded to a DSLR.
I'm actually thinking of getting one again as a back-up.
I just can't praise the G7 enough.
You'll be blown away by the color, contrast, clarity and overall picture quality this little camera can create.

For awesome flash photos, I highly recommend the Canon 220EX flash for the G7. Truly, a match made in heaven. Looks perfect on the G7 and blows away the built-in flash.




  
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Mar 23, 2007 16:09 as a reply to  @ yellowroadster's post |  #13

I voted for the G7, albeit with reservations. It's a good camera, but Canon decided that it won't support RAW. That's the main reason I'm sticking with my G5 for now.

I shoot RAW, and have no use for any camera that doesn't allow me to do that.


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